Evolution vs. Intelligent Design

alex-likes-running wrote:i think he means he believes that a man named jesus did exist, he may not believe that he performed such miracles as are discribed in the bible.

thats just a guess though, i dunno

yes that's exactly what i was saying. It is well documented that Jesus existed and died by crucifixion but i do not believe that he was unmarried and divine. A jewish boy at that time would have been forced to marry. and i do not believe in the imacculate conception

AudienceOfOne wrote:alex, are christians really treated badly in china? i've heard some bad things....

umm i dont think so, i havent heard any stories at least. here in hk, nobody really cares what religion anyone is, its all about buisness and making cash. my school is like 70% christian though (its a lutheran school, but the majority of the christians are catholic) so nobody really has a beef against christianity.

SourWorms wrote:

alex-likes-running wrote:i think he means he believes that a man named jesus did exist, he may not believe that he performed such miracles as are discribed in the bible.

thats just a guess though, i dunno

yes that's exactly what i was saying. It is well documented that Jesus existed and died by crucifixion but i do not believe that he was unmarried and divine. A jewish boy at that time would have been forced to marry. and i do not believe in the imacculate conception

jesus traveled around a lot. he was in so many places they couldn't have forced him to marry. same with the 12 disciples.

The Bee's Knees wrote:

runner_dude wrote:The universe does not exist.

Bull shit.

This is why Christians get on my nerves. I have nothing against them and they are nice but when it comes to issues like this they can't keep it in their pants.

geeze take it easy.

alex-likes-running wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:alex, are christians really treated badly in china? i've heard some bad things....

umm i dont think so, i havent heard any stories at least. here in hk, nobody really cares what religion anyone is, its all about buisness and making cash. my school is like 70% christian though (its a lutheran school, but the majority of the christians are catholic) so nobody really has a beef against christianity.

i thought china was anti-christian? or is that just in some parts, or am i completely wrong?

BA_Sadie. wrote:

The Bee's Knees wrote:

runner_dude wrote:The universe does not exist.

Bull shit.

This is why Christians get on my nerves. I have nothing against them and they are nice but when it comes to issues like this they can't keep it in their pants.

geeze take it easy.

Keep it in your pants and I will.

SourWorms wrote:and i do not believe in the imacculate conception

Do you believe in the Immaculate Reception?

The Bee's Knees wrote:

BA_Sadie. wrote:

The Bee's Knees wrote:

runner_dude wrote:The universe does not exist.

Bull shit.

This is why Christians get on my nerves. I have nothing against them and they are nice but when it comes to issues like this they can't keep it in their pants.

geeze take it easy.

Keep it in your pants and I will.

she's a girl....

The Bee's Knees wrote:

BA_Sadie. wrote:

The Bee's Knees wrote:

runner_dude wrote:The universe does not exist.

Bull shit.

This is why Christians get on my nerves. I have nothing against them and they are nice but when it comes to issues like this they can't keep it in their pants.

geeze take it easy.

Keep it in your pants and I will.

i do not have anything to take out of my pants?

runner_dude wrote:

SourWorms wrote:and i do not believe in the imacculate conception

Do you believe in the Immaculate Reception?

way to lighten up the thread lol.

BA_Sadie. wrote:

The Bee's Knees wrote:

BA_Sadie. wrote:

The Bee's Knees wrote:

runner_dude wrote:The universe does not exist.

Bull shit.

This is why Christians get on my nerves. I have nothing against them and they are nice but when it comes to issues like this they can't keep it in their pants.

geeze take it easy.

Keep it in your pants and I will.

i do not have anything to take out of my pants?

lol...

AudienceOfOne wrote:

alex-likes-running wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:alex, are christians really treated badly in china? i've heard some bad things....

umm i dont think so, i havent heard any stories at least. here in hk, nobody really cares what religion anyone is, its all about buisness and making cash. my school is like 70% christian though (its a lutheran school, but the majority of the christians are catholic) so nobody really has a beef against christianity.

i thought china was anti-christian? or is that just in some parts, or am i completely wrong?

I think what happens is, that foreigners (americans, australians, europeans etc) who live in China (im talking about the mainland here, Macau and HK have freedom of religion) are allowed to practice christianity as long as its not in public, but the natives are not. i dont think christians are allowed to preach to the mainlanders.

AudienceOfOne wrote:

runner_dude wrote:

SourWorms wrote:and i do not believe in the imacculate conception

Do you believe in the Immaculate Reception?

way to lighten up the thread lol.

Hey, Browns fans contend that the ball hit the defender, therefore making the pass incomplete under the rules of the day.

alex-likes-running wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

alex-likes-running wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:alex, are christians really treated badly in china? i've heard some bad things....

umm i dont think so, i havent heard any stories at least. here in hk, nobody really cares what religion anyone is, its all about buisness and making cash. my school is like 70% christian though (its a lutheran school, but the majority of the christians are catholic) so nobody really has a beef against christianity.

i thought china was anti-christian? or is that just in some parts, or am i completely wrong?

I think what happens is, that foreigners (americans, australians, europeans etc) who live in China (im talking about the mainland here, Macau and HK have freedom of religion) are allowed to practice christianity as long as its not in public, but the natives are not. i dont think christians are allowed to preach to the mainlanders.

and your school is all foreigners?

AudienceOfOne wrote:

alex-likes-running wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

alex-likes-running wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:alex, are christians really treated badly in china? i've heard some bad things....

umm i dont think so, i havent heard any stories at least. here in hk, nobody really cares what religion anyone is, its all about buisness and making cash. my school is like 70% christian though (its a lutheran school, but the majority of the christians are catholic) so nobody really has a beef against christianity.

i thought china was anti-christian? or is that just in some parts, or am i completely wrong?

I think what happens is, that foreigners (americans, australians, europeans etc) who live in China (im talking about the mainland here, Macau and HK have freedom of religion) are allowed to practice christianity as long as its not in public, but the natives are not. i dont think christians are allowed to preach to the mainlanders.

and your school is all foreigners?

its like 50/50 (european,australian,american / korean,japanese,indian,chinese). HK is its own government, so the locals can practice wtv religion they like.

This is really weird because I was having this discussion with my bro before I got on here.

Short and sweet: basically what sourworms said that the universe was never created its just always been there, and I believe we came from monkeys.

Okay this will sound dumb but I've always wondered were god came from.
He just popped out of no where one day?

And I was asking my bro why Christians are the only religion that really "advertise" and always have to go to countries that are happy being the religion they are and try to convert people. My friend and I made a truce that we will never talk about religion and she'll stop bringing me too her youth groups.haha yeah..

what are you pinthin? lol. like religion wise

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

alex-likes-running wrote:i think he means he believes that a man named jesus did exist, he may not believe that he performed such miracles as are discribed in the bible.

thats just a guess though, i dunno

yes that's exactly what i was saying. It is well documented that Jesus existed and died by crucifixion but i do not believe that he was unmarried and divine. A jewish boy at that time would have been forced to marry. and i do not believe in the imacculate conception

jesus traveled around a lot. he was in so many places they couldn't have forced him to marry. same with the 12 disciples.

when he was 13 and forced to marry as a young jewish man? oh right...

SourWorms wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

alex-likes-running wrote:i think he means he believes that a man named jesus did exist, he may not believe that he performed such miracles as are discribed in the bible.

thats just a guess though, i dunno

yes that's exactly what i was saying. It is well documented that Jesus existed and died by crucifixion but i do not believe that he was unmarried and divine. A jewish boy at that time would have been forced to marry. and i do not believe in the imacculate conception

jesus traveled around a lot. he was in so many places they couldn't have forced him to marry. same with the 12 disciples.

when he was 13 and forced to marry as a young jewish man? oh right...

what?

Pinthin wrote:This is really weird because I was having this discussion with my bro before I got on here.

Short and sweet: basically what sourworms said that the universe was never created its just always been there, and I believe we came from monkeys.

Okay this will sound dumb but I've always wondered were god came from.
He just popped out of no where one day?

And I was asking my bro why Christians are the only religion that really "advertise" and always have to go to countries that are happy being the religion they are and try to convert people. My friend and I made a truce that we will never talk about religion and she'll stop bringing me too her youth groups.haha yeah..

that's one reason why so many people turn to atheism. because as humans we can't understand how God could be everlasting, how he is and always was. he didn't pop out of no where. he always was there, and always will be.

as for the last part, you can read my other posts to find out why Christians "advertise".

BA_Sadie. wrote:what are you pinthin? lol. like religion wise

agnostic I guess. my mom,dad, and older brother are pretty religous though. But they dont shove it down my throat which is good =] lol

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:This is really weird because I was having this discussion with my bro before I got on here.

Short and sweet: basically what sourworms said that the universe was never created its just always been there, and I believe we came from monkeys.

Okay this will sound dumb but I've always wondered were god came from.
He just popped out of no where one day?

And I was asking my bro why Christians are the only religion that really "advertise" and always have to go to countries that are happy being the religion they are and try to convert people. My friend and I made a truce that we will never talk about religion and she'll stop bringing me too her youth groups.haha yeah..

that's one reason why so many people turn to atheism. because as humans we can't understand how God could be everlasting, how he is and always was. he didn't pop out of no where. he always was there, and always will be.

kinda like our universe?

BA_Sadie. wrote:what are you pinthin? lol. like religion wise

i think that she's atheist.

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:This is really weird because I was having this discussion with my bro before I got on here.

Short and sweet: basically what sourworms said that the universe was never created its just always been there, and I believe we came from monkeys.

Okay this will sound dumb but I've always wondered were god came from.
He just popped out of no where one day?

And I was asking my bro why Christians are the only religion that really "advertise" and always have to go to countries that are happy being the religion they are and try to convert people. My friend and I made a truce that we will never talk about religion and she'll stop bringing me too her youth groups.haha yeah..

that's one reason why so many people turn to atheism. because as humans we can't understand how God could be everlasting, how he is and always was. he didn't pop out of no where. he always was there, and always will be.

as for the last part, you can read my other posts to find out why Christians "advertise".

you can say the same thing about the universe. people can believe in an eternal god but not an eternal universe. why can't you accept a universe that just has always been

Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:This is really weird because I was having this discussion with my bro before I got on here.

Short and sweet: basically what sourworms said that the universe was never created its just always been there, and I believe we came from monkeys.

Okay this will sound dumb but I've always wondered were god came from.
He just popped out of no where one day?

And I was asking my bro why Christians are the only religion that really "advertise" and always have to go to countries that are happy being the religion they are and try to convert people. My friend and I made a truce that we will never talk about religion and she'll stop bringing me too her youth groups.haha yeah..

that's one reason why so many people turn to atheism. because as humans we can't understand how God could be everlasting, how he is and always was. he didn't pop out of no where. he always was there, and always will be.

kinda like our universe?

no.