Evolution vs. Intelligent Design

SourWorms wrote:Sorry I was just making an assumption on your intelligence based on the arguments that you have presented.

believing in christ is seen only as a lack of intelligence to those outside of the faith, but I am pretty sure:

DUDE ZOMG IM BAPTIZED!!!

IM GONAAA BE SAVEDDD HOLAAAAAA LOLLLERSKATES!!


...Is retarded on a universal level

look, if we are going to simply start throwing insults at each other, Im out. I came here to debate my beliefs, not to insult everybody.

Trackaholic wrote:

SourWorms wrote:Sorry I was just making an assumption on your intelligence based on the arguments that you have presented.

believing in christ is seen only as a lack of intelligence to those outside of the faith, but I am pretty sure:

DUDE ZOMG IM BAPTIZED!!!

IM GONAAA BE SAVEDDD HOLAAAAAA LOLLLERSKATES!!


...Is retarded on a universal level

nothing with lollerskates in it is retarted. im sorry

alex-likes-running wrote:

thelagwagon wrote:

Trackaholic wrote:If you love them so, you will make sure they get baptized, you will make sure they recieve holy communion, you will make sure they go to confession. otherwise they will go to hell, along with you. You should be glad, before jesus died on the cross, you would, as well as your entire family, already be doomed for hell, no matter what you did.
If a person is good and charitable his entire life, but denys god and does not recieve baptism or holy communion. he is going to hell. end of story.

End of story.

I'm sorry mate, but it's all fairy tale nonsense to me. The invisible pink unicorn loves you.

actually god looks like this.



lololol jk.
i am probably not the best christian here.

*btw that is how god is depicted in SP*

lol, thats funny shit

Well someone can't understand sarcasm...but I'm sure you are a very smart person!

I have met a lot of smart people who believe in christ but they do not go out into the world trying to convince others that they are sinners and going to hell.

This is what god looks like...



















oh, nothing

alex-likes-running wrote:

Trackaholic wrote:

SourWorms wrote:Sorry I was just making an assumption on your intelligence based on the arguments that you have presented.

believing in christ is seen only as a lack of intelligence to those outside of the faith, but I am pretty sure:

DUDE ZOMG IM BAPTIZED!!!

IM GONAAA BE SAVEDDD HOLAAAAAA LOLLLERSKATES!!


...Is retarded on a universal level

nothing with lollerskates in it is retarted. im sorry

its retarded. not retarted. or were you just being sarcastic? I hope so.

lol

Trackaholic wrote:look, if we are going to simply start throwing insults at each other, Im out. I came here to debate my beliefs, not to insult everybody.

Thank god...nvm, lets not thank god.

SourWorms wrote:Well someone can't understand sarcasm...but I'm sure you are a very smart person!

I have met a lot of smart people who believe in christ but they do not go out into the world trying to convince others that they are sinners and going to hell.

That was not sarcasm, that was mockery, entirely different from sarcasm and basicly nothing but a petty insult.

and Catholics are taught that in order to be good christians, we must always strive to defend our beliefs and try to convert our friends to christianity so that we may all go to heaven. As long as it does not cause the person harm to try to convert them. were not going to be assholes like jehovahs witnesses.

if your christian friends do not care about the spiritual wellbeing of others, how are they good christians?

TnF_T wrote:

Trackaholic wrote:look, if we are going to simply start throwing insults at each other, Im out. I came here to debate my beliefs, not to insult everybody.

Thank god...nvm, lets not thank god.

oy.

SourWorms wrote:This is what god looks like...



















oh, nothing

that is the stupidest post ever and with nikerunner on these forums thats pretty bad

jk nikerunner

Anyone can see this is no longer debate but a mere petty exchange of insults. Im out, I'll come back when everybody is refreshed and ready to debate some more.

Trackaholic wrote:

SourWorms wrote:Well someone can't understand sarcasm...but I'm sure you are a very smart person!

I have met a lot of smart people who believe in christ but they do not go out into the world trying to convince others that they are sinners and going to hell.

That was not sarcasm, that was mockery, entirely different from sarcasm and basicly nothing but a petty insult.

and Catholics are taught that in order to be good christians, we must always strive to defend our beliefs and try to convert our friends to christianity so that we may all go to heaven. As long as it does not cause the person harm to try to convert them. were not going to be assholes like jehovahs witnesses.

if your christian friends do not care about the spiritual wellbeing of others, how are they good christians?

Wow then the byzantine church is obviously up there with Mormons and the like trying to convert everyone they meet. I kind of like the Roman Catholic outlook on religion a whole lot better than your's.

sounds like a good idea

SourWorms wrote:

Trackaholic wrote:

SourWorms wrote:Well someone can't understand sarcasm...but I'm sure you are a very smart person!

I have met a lot of smart people who believe in christ but they do not go out into the world trying to convince others that they are sinners and going to hell.

That was not sarcasm, that was mockery, entirely different from sarcasm and basicly nothing but a petty insult.

and Catholics are taught that in order to be good christians, we must always strive to defend our beliefs and try to convert our friends to christianity so that we may all go to heaven. As long as it does not cause the person harm to try to convert them. were not going to be assholes like jehovahs witnesses.

if your christian friends do not care about the spiritual wellbeing of others, how are they good christians?

Wow then the byzantine church is obviously up there with Mormons and the like trying to convert everyone they meet. I kind of like the Roman Catholic outlook on religion a whole lot better than your's.

i resent that lol.

alex-likes-running wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

Trackaholic wrote:

SourWorms wrote:Well someone can't understand sarcasm...but I'm sure you are a very smart person!

I have met a lot of smart people who believe in christ but they do not go out into the world trying to convince others that they are sinners and going to hell.

That was not sarcasm, that was mockery, entirely different from sarcasm and basicly nothing but a petty insult.

and Catholics are taught that in order to be good christians, we must always strive to defend our beliefs and try to convert our friends to christianity so that we may all go to heaven. As long as it does not cause the person harm to try to convert them. were not going to be assholes like jehovahs witnesses.

if your christian friends do not care about the spiritual wellbeing of others, how are they good christians?

Wow then the byzantine church is obviously up there with Mormons and the like trying to convert everyone they meet. I kind of like the Roman Catholic outlook on religion a whole lot better than your's.

i resent that lol.

I'm sorry if your Mormon, I know a lot of cool Mormon people like for real. But for some reason I don't believe that some man saw some golden tablets that no one else could see.

SourWorms wrote:

Trackaholic wrote:

SourWorms wrote:Well someone can't understand sarcasm...but I'm sure you are a very smart person!

I have met a lot of smart people who believe in christ but they do not go out into the world trying to convince others that they are sinners and going to hell.

That was not sarcasm, that was mockery, entirely different from sarcasm and basicly nothing but a petty insult.

and Catholics are taught that in order to be good christians, we must always strive to defend our beliefs and try to convert our friends to christianity so that we may all go to heaven. As long as it does not cause the person harm to try to convert them. were not going to be assholes like jehovahs witnesses.

if your christian friends do not care about the spiritual wellbeing of others, how are they good christians?

Wow then the byzantine church is obviously up there with Mormons and the like trying to convert everyone they meet. I kind of like the Roman Catholic outlook on religion a whole lot better than your's.

I guess what I said did sound like that. I dont believe in imposing ones religon forcefully onto people. Let me clarify what I said. If someone IS willing to LISTEN to what I have to say about my religon, then I will tell them about it! But if the person tells me that they do not want to talk or hear about my religon, I will listen to them and remain quiet on that subject. I agree with you, it is wrong to force religon on anyone. But would it not be wrong to deny those who openly request and DO want to here about my religon, the oppurtunity?

I personally believe in God, but I agree that it's very pretentious to try to convert others. Most people who are trying to convert others are looking for their beliefs to be validated. Live and let live.

if somebody doesn't want to hear the truth, you gotta show them by your actions instead of your words. that's what i try to do.

funrunner wrote:I personally believe in God, but I agree that it's very pretentious to try to convert others. Most people who are trying to convert others are looking for their beliefs to be validated. Live and let live.

yup, let's just let em die and go to hell, no biggy.

Well it can actually be offputting if you get up in peoples faces about your religon. Religon is a personal choice, it must be a personal choice. When you force it on someone, its not personal. Its you cramming your beliefs into their lives.

yea we definetly shouldn't go "johovah's witnesess" or anything.

never mind this.

Pinthin wrote:

BA_Sadie. wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

BA_Sadie. wrote:PINTHIN:
okay maybe that wasn't a good example and you don't need to find links i figured that would happen anyways..
i see effects with miracles that there is no other explanation for.

fair enough.

But that brings us back to my quote' about why humans created a god because they couldn't answer things such as miracles,evolution, or the creation of the universe. God was an easy answer to all their questions, because obviously science wasnt too big back in the day.

I wish my bro wasnt a track camp so I could quote something he said that I thought was really...deep. haha

<--- thats what this whole thread makes me wanna do.

don't you have faith in anything?

Faith is something christians believe in, for which they use as a substitute for trust.

Yeah, I trust my mom to pick me up after practice..haha I guess not??

yeahh idk..im sorry i just don't understand.

The Bee's Knees wrote:

BA_Sadie. wrote:yes he is hes always been there and hes not a natural process like big bang is he doesn't have to have something create him.

Ok. Then I can say there is some running God up there, that's what your saying. Your saying that he is just "there" and that you don't need proof. I could essentially make up a religion just like christianity. All I would have to do is say there is some type of God up there and say if you don't believe him you'll go to hell therefore making everyone believe it.

Proof? He sent his son to die for our sins out of love for us, what other proof do you need?