Where Did God Go?????

He is stricly pointing towards the flaws in religion. Why act like a good person if you can still get into heaven. It's about as much logic as Hamlet had for not killing Claudius.

Pinthin wrote:

eternally_running wrote:^ that is very obvious is Hitlers case...i dont know how people think he was a christian. His actions def. did not show it!

but you guys have said before you can be a christian, just not a very good one.

In hitlers case, he wasn't a very good one. What about the crusades?? How is that any better?

Those types of people are christains by name, not real christains.

The universe always existed. Seems impossible, right?

God has always existed. Seems impossible, right?

So far we're even.

The universe always existed and life turned out to be successful the way it is now even though such a thing can only happen under very certain circumstances. Seems impossible, right?

Since God existed, we were given favorable conditions for life. That's plausible.

Now the religious side is one up.

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Also, can you refute conscience and instinctive cries for divine help?

The universe always existed and life turned out to be
successful the way it is now even though such a thing can only happen
under very certain circumstances. Seems impossible, right?

Since God existed, we were given favorable conditions for life. That's plausible.

1: Yes, but some cosmologists have suggested, that there are infinite #s of universes, which have slightly different laws, and there must be at least 15 which have the ideal conditions for life. Of these 15 there are trillions of galaxies which host untold numbers of stars. Of these stars at least 1 million of them should support life of some kind, which makes at least a few of them host to life that is capable of answering to forum topics.
2: I'm so confused right now.

I didn't understand a word FK was trying to construe.

CT Track wrote:I didn't understand a word FK was trying to construe.

Well let me re-phrase it then. Since an ever-existing universe and an ever-existing God are both about equally impossible to believe, and in a universe with a God there is a 100% chance of life versus a .001% chance, it seems that a universe with a God is more believable.

FinishingKick wrote:

CT Track wrote:I didn't understand a word FK was trying to construe.

Well let me re-phrase it then. Since an ever-existing universe and an ever-existing God are both about equally impossible to believe, and in a universe with a God there is a 100% chance of life versus a .001% chance, it seems that a universe with a God is more believable.

But where did god come from?

whenhen wrote:

FinishingKick wrote:

CT Track wrote:I didn't understand a word FK was trying to construe.

Well let me re-phrase it then. Since an ever-existing universe and an ever-existing God are both about equally impossible to believe, and in a universe with a God there is a 100% chance of life versus a .001% chance, it seems that a universe with a God is more believable.

But where did god come from?

He has always existed. Ask an atheist where the universe came from and they will say it was ever-existing. Since they both have that same impossible chance of happening we can proceed to the next step (how life began) on neutral ground. And since life turning out perfect like it has under the guidance of a celestial presence is much greater than it happening by chance,you can argue that a God is more probable than no god.

If God is not a form of matter, how does he exist? ....And no I still don't understand what you're saying FK.

It was more probable that the Patriots would win the super bowl the but Giants won anyways. So God probably doesn't exist. Iontgivafuck

CT Track wrote:It was more probable that the Patriots would win the super bowl the but Giants won anyways. So God probably doesn't exist. Iontgivafuck

That is one of the stupidest reasons why one should believe/not believe in something that I have quite possibly ever heard.

CT Track wrote:If God is not a form of matter, how does he exist? ....And no I still don't understand what you're saying FK.

How do you know he's not a form of matter? and keep reading my thing until you get it, I've explained it 3 different times already, you really need to read it and find out what I'm saying until you can proceed posting in this debate.

I ain't debating. I'm just retorting unlogically.

Then you're wasting your time.

My bad? I didn't know I was supposed to be doing much else at 12:30 in the morning. I just finished my Argument and Research paper and was browsing the webs.

And I'm pretty sure every source I've come across God is not a form of matter. He is above the 4th demension or something like that.

My bad? I thought a college kid would have much more to do at night then a high schooler that starts school in two days. If anything I'd be catching up on sleep.

CT Track wrote:And I'm pretty sure every source I've come across God is not a form of matter. He is above the 4th demension or something like that.

Does that mean he can't be a form of matter? Nobody knows for sure and no one will ever know, at least on earth.

Like I said, I was doing two papers so I wouldn't have to cram tomorrow and I could actually do something. And God doesn't matter to me, so he ain't a form of matter.

CT Track wrote:Like I said, I was doing two papers so I wouldn't have to cram tomorrow and I could actually do something. And God doesn't matter to me, so he ain't a form of matter.

He should matter to you. Remember: If there is no God, you wasted an hour every week of your earthly life, if there is a God, you just lost eternal life. Why take the chance? It will make you a better person anyway.

I've said countless times, I believe what God teaches. However I do not believe in an eternal non sensical peice of non-matter that will probably take me to a place where I don't want to go if I suck dick my whole life.

SourWorms wrote:soooooo i got drunk and hooked up with a girl 3 times last nite. if i repent i have nothing to worry about?

if you believe, then yes.

i don't believe that He's a form of matter, except for the 33 years He was on earth. but it really doesn't matter to me, at all. it's like arguing what color Jesus was, it has no purpose.

FinishingKick wrote:

CT Track wrote:Like I said, I was doing two papers so I wouldn't have to cram tomorrow and I could actually do something. And God doesn't matter to me, so he ain't a form of matter.

He should matter to you. Remember: If there is no God, you wasted an hour every week of your earthly life, if there is a God, you just lost eternal life. Why take the chance? It will make you a better person anyway.

that's a dumb reason to be a Christian because it's doomed to fail. there are no real Christians out there that are playing the odds like you suggest.

AudienceOfOne wrote:

FinishingKick wrote:

CT Track wrote:Like I said, I was doing two papers so I wouldn't have to cram tomorrow and I could actually do something. And God doesn't matter to me, so he ain't a form of matter.

He should matter to you. Remember: If there is no God, you wasted an hour every week of your earthly life, if there is a God, you just lost eternal life. Why take the chance? It will make you a better person anyway.

that's a dumb reason to be a Christian because it's doomed to fail. there are no real Christians out there that are playing the odds like you suggest.

I sent you a PM.