Religion is a neurosis

Pinthin wrote:

P2 wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

P2 wrote:GOD's word is obvious, I've considered science and other theories. But most of them are just that. THEORIES. Pinthin didn't those videos just prove you wrong? The big bang can't just happen. It can't be something just there. Time is finite, so how can some dot in the sky be infinite. All matter is created from existing matter. Science clearly contradicts itself. Some force out of this dimension would have to have created the universe. The Bible never says it didnt use the big bang to do it. Most of the Bible is symbolism so Genesis could mean the big bang technically if that helps you accept it. Even though I personally dont think that is true.

no!!! those videos were crappy!! (no offense)

They werent even real scientists, they proved nothing. Not to mention all they did was call all non-christians idiots.

so please dont bring those up again..lol

however, the one that disproved the big bang was very informative and nobody can refute that.

the link didnt work

lol

Pinthin wrote:

runnergirl93 wrote:okay everythings cleared up. as for the big bang theory thats about 6 hours of my life i will never get back from watching the history/discovery channel.haha.

OH NO you learned something new

This is what I HATE and why my stupid ( “honor” ) biology class got nothing done. All the Christians were being stupid and arguing about evolution. There is nothing wrong with learning about other peoples theories (not too mention the theory that is the MOST accepted

I have no problem going to a church and listening to a sermon with my pals. I think its interesting and I like to know what others think so I can learn more about their religion. But does it go the other way?? nooooooo

P2 wrote:GOD's word is obvious, I've considered science and other theories. But most of them are just that. THEORIES. Pinthin didn't those videos just prove you wrong? The big bang can't just happen. It can't be something just there. Time is finite, so how can some dot in the sky be infinite. All matter is created from existing matter. Science clearly contradicts itself. Some force out of this dimension would have to have created the universe.

whenhen wrote:

P2 wrote:GOD's word is obvious, I've considered science and other theories. But most of them are just that. THEORIES. Pinthin didn't those videos just prove you wrong? The big bang can't just happen. It can't be something just there. Time is finite, so how can some dot in the sky be infinite. All matter is created from existing matter. Science clearly contradicts itself. Some force out of this dimension would have to have created the universe.

According to a controversial hypothesis of time, it doesn't exist, it was created in the big bang.

P2 wrote:

whenhen wrote:

P2 wrote:GOD's word is obvious, I've considered science and other theories. But most of them are just that. THEORIES. Pinthin didn't those videos just prove you wrong? The big bang can't just happen. It can't be something just there. Time is finite, so how can some dot in the sky be infinite. All matter is created from existing matter. Science clearly contradicts itself. Some force out of this dimension would have to have created the universe.

According to a controversial hypothesis of time, it doesn't exist, it was created in the big bang.

That is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

whenhen wrote:

P2 wrote:

whenhen wrote:

P2 wrote:GOD's word is obvious, I've considered science and other theories. But most of them are just that. THEORIES. Pinthin didn't those videos just prove you wrong? The big bang can't just happen. It can't be something just there. Time is finite, so how can some dot in the sky be infinite. All matter is created from existing matter. Science clearly contradicts itself. Some force out of this dimension would have to have created the universe.

According to a controversial hypothesis of time, it doesn't exist, it was created in the big bang.

That is the most retarded thing I've ever heard.

Why is it retarded? Time is merely the fourth dimension. I really don't understand the theory, being that it is super complicated physics, but if you Google scientific American time, the first result should lead you to the relevant information.

SourWorms wrote:

P2 wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

P2 wrote:no. hes not. the word is enough evidence for me. have you ever considered that the dead sea scrolls were written during the period of Jesus.

The dead sea scrolls were written before 100 C.E. which very much suggests that they were written around the same time period that a man, with a name loosely translated into English meaning Jesus, was executed under the Emperor Tiberius by a man named Pontius Pilate. While this may be true, "Jesus" was one of many men executed on a particular day at the common crucifixion spot in the province of Iudea.

Unfortunately, the dead sea scrolls nor the bible give any enlightenment into the divinity of Jesus or existence of God with any proof past pure speculation and theory

This may be true, but do you think they wrote this based on some loony by the name Jesus who claimed to be the son of GOD? No. There were books of the Bible in the scrolls providing evidence that this is true and there is evidence right now further suggesting that this is true. They wouldnt write this based on a single man with exaggerated claims.

and yet you believe this to be true of mohammed

AudienceOfOne wrote:

RawBeginner wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Just Because wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

RawBeginner wrote: It is a response to deep emotional conflicts and weaknesses.

Did you ever think for just a second that you're the weak minded one, because you can't seem to grasp anything that can't be proven to you?

To believe in something, you have to believe it to be true and the only way to believe it to be true is to prove that it exists.

we know God exists.

but btw, faith is when you believe in something even if you can't see it.

"The word god is for me nothing more
than the expression and product of human weaknesses, the Bible a
collection of honourable, but still primitive legends which are
nevertheless pretty childish. No interpretation no matter how subtle
can (for me) change this."

Do you think you understand the universe better than Albert Einstein did?

If He was ignorant enough to say that, then, yes I must know more about the universe than he did.

SourWorms wrote:ending the quote train...

but how does that make einstein ignorant? there were no facts that suggested a god to him, and thus he did not believe it

Pinthin wrote:Once again p2 those videos were just some random guys opinions He had 0 proof . sooo Those prove nothing!! your not representin well. and what whenwhen said isnt retarded btw.

and one little youtube video by some random guy isn't going to make me a Christian. I admire your determination to desperately "save me" buut this is the very reason why I can’t stand your religion =]

Maybe sourworms could watch them and critique them...and make it sound intelligent so you could understand better. I'm not good at explaining things.

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:ending the quote train...

but how does that make einstein ignorant? there were no facts that suggested a god to him, and thus he did not believe it

and that's what makes him ignorant, he couldn't see or believe anything past the science.

P2 wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

P2 wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

P2 wrote:GOD's word is obvious, I've considered science and other theories. But most of them are just that. THEORIES. Pinthin didn't those videos just prove you wrong? The big bang can't just happen. It can't be something just there. Time is finite, so how can some dot in the sky be infinite. All matter is created from existing matter. Science clearly contradicts itself. Some force out of this dimension would have to have created the universe. The Bible never says it didnt use the big bang to do it. Most of the Bible is symbolism so Genesis could mean the big bang technically if that helps you accept it. Even though I personally dont think that is true.

no!!! those videos were crappy!! (no offense)

They werent even real scientists, they proved nothing. Not to mention all they did was call all non-christians idiots.

so please dont bring those up again..lol

however, the one that disproved the big bang was very informative and nobody can refute that.

the link didnt work

lol

this is the one:

SourWorms wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:ending the quote train...

but how does that make einstein ignorant? there were no facts that suggested a god to him, and thus he did not believe it

and that's what makes him ignorant, he couldn't see or believe anything past the science.

how does that make him ignorant? i would call the people who do not believe in evolution ignorant because they will not accept science right before their eyes. but einstein never saw any proof of god or a reason for a god, so that sounds more analytical than ignorant to me.

SourWorms wrote:

P2 wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

P2 wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

P2 wrote:GOD's word is obvious, I've considered science and other theories. But most of them are just that. THEORIES. Pinthin didn't those videos just prove you wrong? The big bang can't just happen. It can't be something just there. Time is finite, so how can some dot in the sky be infinite. All matter is created from existing matter. Science clearly contradicts itself. Some force out of this dimension would have to have created the universe. The Bible never says it didnt use the big bang to do it. Most of the Bible is symbolism so Genesis could mean the big bang technically if that helps you accept it. Even though I personally dont think that is true.

no!!! those videos were crappy!! (no offense)

They werent even real scientists, they proved nothing. Not to mention all they did was call all non-christians idiots.

so please dont bring those up again..lol

however, the one that disproved the big bang was very informative and nobody can refute that.

the link didnt work

lol

this is the one:

that was simply retarded. they are skewing the facts. time is a man created system in order to find the hours that have passed since they can remember. time is relative of course and is simply a measurement. science states that matter is eternal but time is not necessarilly because it is a measurement between two points. this means that given a number such as 4.5 billion years to where we can estimate the big bang, to now is a measured time of 4.5 billion years. the matter before that still existed eternally and has and always will be there simply changing state.

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RawBeginner wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

P2 wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

P2 wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

P2 wrote:GOD's word is obvious, I've considered science and other theories. But most of them are just that. THEORIES. Pinthin didn't those videos just prove you wrong? The big bang can't just happen. It can't be something just there. Time is finite, so how can some dot in the sky be infinite. All matter is created from existing matter. Science clearly contradicts itself. Some force out of this dimension would have to have created the universe. The Bible never says it didnt use the big bang to do it. Most of the Bible is symbolism so Genesis could mean the big bang technically if that helps you accept it. Even though I personally dont think that is true.

no!!! those videos were crappy!! (no offense)

They werent even real scientists, they proved nothing. Not to mention all they did was call all non-christians idiots.

so please dont bring those up again..lol

however, the one that disproved the big bang was very informative and nobody can refute that.

the link didnt work

lol

this is the one:

that was simply retarded. they are skewing the facts. time is a man created system in order to find the hours that have passed since they can remember. time is relative of course and is simply a measurement. science states that matter is eternal but time is not necessarilly because it is a measurement between two points. this means that given a number such as 4.5 billion years to where we can estimate the big bang, to now is a measured time of 4.5 billion years. the matter before that still existed eternally and has and always will be there simply changing state.

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You say that you know so much about science, and yet you write this? Time is very much a real thing. Einstein wrote of the space-time fabric that composes the universe. Time can be manipulated. For example, if I traveled at the speed of light, I would not age. I would live forever, because time would stop. This has been documented when astronauts went to space. Because they were moving faster while in the shuttle, they aged more slowly. If I traveled at half the speed of light, I would age twice as slowly. This is all true, and yet you say time is a man-created system? Time is an integral part of the universe, fool.

SourWorms wrote:

RawBeginner wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

P2 wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

P2 wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

P2 wrote:GOD's word is obvious, I've considered science and other theories. But most of them are just that. THEORIES. Pinthin didn't those videos just prove you wrong? The big bang can't just happen. It can't be something just there. Time is finite, so how can some dot in the sky be infinite. All matter is created from existing matter. Science clearly contradicts itself. Some force out of this dimension would have to have created the universe. The Bible never says it didnt use the big bang to do it. Most of the Bible is symbolism so Genesis could mean the big bang technically if that helps you accept it. Even though I personally dont think that is true.

no!!! those videos were crappy!! (no offense)

They werent even real scientists, they proved nothing. Not to mention all they did was call all non-christians idiots.

so please dont bring those up again..lol

however, the one that disproved the big bang was very informative and nobody can refute that.

the link didnt work

lol

this is the one:

that was simply retarded. they are skewing the facts. time is a man created system in order to find the hours that have passed since they can remember. time is relative of course and is simply a measurement. science states that matter is eternal but time is not necessarilly because it is a measurement between two points. this means that given a number such as 4.5 billion years to where we can estimate the big bang, to now is a measured time of 4.5 billion years. the matter before that still existed eternally and has and always will be there simply changing state.

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You say that you know so much about science, and yet you write this? Time is very much a real thing. Einstein wrote of the space-time fabric that composes the universe. Time can be manipulated. For example, if I traveled at the speed of light, I would not age. I would live forever, because time would stop. This has been documented when astronauts went to space. Because they were moving faster while in the shuttle, they aged more slowly. If I traveled at half the speed of light, I would age twice as slowly. This is all true, and yet you say time is a man-created system? Time is an integral part of the universe, fool.

time is relative as i said, which is one of einstein's principle theories. do not try to contradict me before you know what you are talking about. time can be manipulated because it is not constant and relative. constant time is a man thought concept just like god.

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RawBeginner wrote:

ProtestTheZero wrote:You guys should date :/

You should break 5

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:ending the quote train...

but how does that make einstein ignorant? there were no facts that suggested a god to him, and thus he did not believe it

and that's what makes him ignorant, he couldn't see or believe anything past the science.

how does that make him ignorant? i would call the people who do not believe in evolution ignorant because they will not accept science right before their eyes. but einstein never saw any proof of god or a reason for a god, so that sounds more analytical than ignorant to me.

again, science does not prove evolution. if you can't see past what we know as humans then you're ignorant because we obviously don't know everything, we're not even remotely close to knowing everything.