Obama vs. McCain

funrunner wrote:I just have to add something.

What makes you think Obama's promises are empty? I know I said I wasn't paying much attention to the race, but I'm pretty sure you have pretty much no basis for saying that Obama won't fulfill his promises. The fact that someone can make good speeches isn't the best reason to vote for him, but it sure as hell isn't a reason to vote against him.

BTW, that quote train on the first page was getting pretty awesome. Keep up the good work.

He can't do a lot of the things he said he would in our system. He's also always going on about changing America but he rarely specifies what he's going to do.

FK wrote:

The Bee's Knees wrote:

FK wrote:

The Bee's Knees wrote:Obama all the way. We need troops in Afganistan and that's where they're going.

Obama's promises are pretty empty, even for a politician.

He has good speaking skills though.

Also when it comes election time, we'll see what Obama does with his power.

Good speaking skills don't mean anything. Obama has all the tools to be a great candidate, but not a good president.

Speaking skills are everything! Look back at John F. Kennedy, his debates were everything in that election

SourWorms wrote:

FK wrote:

The Bee's Knees wrote:

FK wrote:

The Bee's Knees wrote:Obama all the way. We need troops in Afganistan and that's where they're going.

Obama's promises are pretty empty, even for a politician.

He has good speaking skills though.

Also when it comes election time, we'll see what Obama does with his power.

Good speaking skills don't mean anything. Obama has all the tools to be a great candidate, but not a good president.

Speaking skills are everything! Look back at John F. Kennedy, his debates were everything in that election

Speaking skills are good for getting elected, but if you rely only on speaking skills to get elected you will probably not be as good a president, though I admit they are needed at some times.

Exactly, they are key to getting elected, which is the point i was making. Although Kennedy got elected, his domestic policies sucked. But of course his foreign policies were top notch.

SourWorms wrote:Exactly, they are key to getting elected, which is the point i was making. Although Kennedy got elected, his domestic policies sucked. But of course his foreign policies were top notch.

That makes sense, speaking skills are used in foreign policy a lot more than domestic. I'm saying that if we elect Obama based on his speaking skills, he'll disappoint us domestically.

Running With Scissors wrote:I am going to create my own country and make my own laws.

I'm coming with you

me and a guy in my latin class want to make our own country and take over canada and the top part of the US...not really but we joke about it all the time

I'm not really into either canidate, but I can't vote yet so that doesn't matter.

I guess I would pick Obama because Mccain supports draft. So, I wouldn't want all my guy friends or even girls to be called into war the next few years.

xotrackkgirl wrote:I'm not really into either canidate, but I can't vote yet so that doesn't matter.

I guess I would pick Obama because Mccain supports draft. So, I wouldn't want all my guy friends or even girls to be called into war the next few years.

Sorry but that's a lame reason.

FK wrote:

xotrackkgirl wrote:I'm not really into either canidate, but I can't vote yet so that doesn't matter.

I guess I would pick Obama because Mccain supports draft. So, I wouldn't want all my guy friends or even girls to be called into war the next few years.

Sorry but that's a lame reason.

The draft is a huge issue. It could mean you could be dragged of to fight a war, no matter if you agree with it or not. I know it's not likely, but the principle that's important. I'd consider any leader who supports the draft a tyrant. Just like I think all the euro nations leaders who have mandatory national service are tyrants

mae2937 wrote:me and a guy in my latin class want to make our own country and take over canada and the top part of the US...not really but we joke about it all the time

semper ubi sub ubi

SourWorms wrote:

mae2937 wrote:me and a guy in my latin class want to make our own country and take over canada and the top part of the US...not really but we joke about it all the time

semper ubi sub ubi

Doesn't that involve an incorrect translation of ubi?

thelagwagon wrote:

FK wrote:

xotrackkgirl wrote:I'm not really into either canidate, but I can't vote yet so that doesn't matter.

I guess I would pick Obama because Mccain supports draft. So, I wouldn't want all my guy friends or even girls to be called into war the next few years.

Sorry but that's a lame reason.

The draft is a huge issue. It could mean you could be dragged of to fight a war, no matter if you agree with it or not. I know it's not likely, but the principle that's important. I'd consider any leader who supports the draft a tyrant. Just like I think all the euro nations leaders who have mandatory national service are tyrants

Ok sorry, it may be a big issue to someone else. But personally I don't think the draft is the most important issue by a long shot.

I don't think the draft will ever receive the public report needed to be reinstated. Our elected officials don't want to lose precious votes because they killed off our country's young men in Iraq or *gulp* Iran. If the draft is reinstated, it will be because of a global conflict involving more than simple Muslim partisans.

And I do believe that McCain strongly opposes the draft (at least last I saw, which was a while back), but he has been known to flip-flop pretty wildly.

SourWorms wrote:

mae2937 wrote:me and a guy in my latin class want to make our own country and take over canada and the top part of the US...not really but we joke about it all the time

semper ubi sub ubi

Not really sure how that applies there...

funrunner wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

mae2937 wrote:me and a guy in my latin class want to make our own country and take over canada and the top part of the US...not really but we joke about it all the time

semper ubi sub ubi

Not really sure how that applies there...

pwnt

SourWorms wrote:

funrunner wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

mae2937 wrote:me and a guy in my latin class want to make our own country and take over canada and the top part of the US...not really but we joke about it all the time

semper ubi sub ubi

Not really sure how that applies there...

pwnt

I thought you were telling her to always where underwear while she conquered Canada. I thought it seemed like pretty stupid advice...

lefty_logan wrote:Huckabee for the win

zomg you are a really fat runner

funrunner wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

funrunner wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

mae2937 wrote:me and a guy in my latin class want to make our own country and take over canada and the top part of the US...not really but we joke about it all the time

semper ubi sub ubi

Not really sure how that applies there...

pwnt

I thought you were telling her to always where underwear while she conquered Canada. I thought it seemed like pretty stupid advice...

haha good one sw

funrunner wrote:I just have to add something.

What makes you think Obama's promises are empty? I know I said I wasn't paying much attention to the race, but I'm pretty sure you have pretty much no basis for saying that Obama won't fulfill his promises. The fact that someone can make good speeches isn't the best reason to vote for him, but it sure as hell isn't a reason to vote against him.

BTW, that quote train on the first page was getting pretty awesome. Keep up the good work.

Obama is a politician, that is how I know his promises are empty. It makes me sick to watch his speeches, and see him talk about how he is going to "change america" and give american what it needs, but he NEVER says how. It is all just a big scheme. I'm not saying McCain will be better about keeping promises, but some things Obama have said are just unreasonable and he outright states that he can't tell us his overall plans so he can keep them from getting stolen by other politicians.

BagoXC25 wrote:

funrunner wrote:I just have to add something.

What makes you think Obama's promises are empty? I know I said I wasn't paying much attention to the race, but I'm pretty sure you have pretty much no basis for saying that Obama won't fulfill his promises. The fact that someone can make good speeches isn't the best reason to vote for him, but it sure as hell isn't a reason to vote against him.

BTW, that quote train on the first page was getting pretty awesome. Keep up the good work.

Obama is a politician, that is how I know his promises are empty. It makes me sick to watch his speeches, and see him talk about how he is going to "change america" and give american what it needs, but he NEVER says how. It is all just a big scheme. I'm not saying McCain will be better about keeping promises, but some things Obama have said are just unreasonable and he outright states that he can't tell us his overall plans so he can keep them from getting stolen by other politicians.

That doesn't surprise me. Plus there's the fact that he doesn't have too much experience, especially compared with McCain.

McCain.

Obama is winning the poll!

Suck that McCain.

The Bee's Knees wrote:Obama is winning the poll!

Suck that McCain.

Yet no Obama voter on that poll has come up with a good argument for him.

FK wrote:

The Bee's Knees wrote:Obama is winning the poll!

Suck that McCain.

Yet no Obama voter on that poll has come up with a good argument for him.

Ok. You haven't argued why McCain will be the greatest president in the world. Whatever I would argue you would denie saying McCain is better. So explain your reasoning.