Evolution vs. Intelligent Design

SourWorms wrote:so they essentially made it up, but believed it is what God wanted

no, they knew what God wanted them to write, and they wrote it down.

666 = Nero, the current emperor of Rome at the time
Go look it up

And what about all of the other gospels written at the time? There are hundreds of gospels, and yet only 4 that agree with what the editors wanted.

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:so they essentially made it up, but believed it is what God wanted

no, they knew what God wanted them to write, and they wrote it down.

how did they know?

SourWorms wrote:666 = Nero, the current emperor of Rome at the time
Go look it up

And what about all of the other gospels written at the time? There are hundreds of gospels, and yet only 4 that agree with what the editors wanted.

because those 4 were the closest to Jesus.

SourWorms wrote:666 = Nero, the current emperor of Rome at the time
Go look it up

And what about all of the other gospels written at the time? There are hundreds of gospels, and yet only 4 that agree with what the editors wanted.

how exactly do you get letters out of numbers? sounds like conspirator crap to me.

SourWorms wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:so they essentially made it up, but believed it is what God wanted

no, they knew what God wanted them to write, and they wrote it down.

how did they know?

i don't know how God works, but i would guess that the Holy spirit entered them, judging from the other things the Bible says he does.

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:666 = Nero, the current emperor of Rome at the time
Go look it up

And what about all of the other gospels written at the time? There are hundreds of gospels, and yet only 4 that agree with what the editors wanted.

how exactly do you get letters out of numbers? sounds like conspirator crap to me.

Nero Caesar in aramaic is spelled NRON KSR. Aramaic letters have numeral values like roman numerals.
N= 50
R=200
O= 6
N= 50
K=100
S= 60
R=200
.....666

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:so they essentially made it up, but believed it is what God wanted

no, they knew what God wanted them to write, and they wrote it down.

how did they know?

i don't know how God works, but i would guess that the Holy spirit entered them, judging from the other things the Bible says he does.

Ok so you don't know that it happened, you are just assuming. Correct?

SourWorms wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:666 = Nero, the current emperor of Rome at the time
Go look it up

And what about all of the other gospels written at the time? There are hundreds of gospels, and yet only 4 that agree with what the editors wanted.

how exactly do you get letters out of numbers? sounds like conspirator crap to me.

Nero Caesar in aramaic is spelled NRON KSR. Aramaic letters have numeral values like roman numerals.
N= 50
R=200
O= 6
N= 50
K=100
S= 60
R=200
.....666

did they use those for names? i mean, when someone said "Nero Ceasar' would they automaticall think 666?

SourWorms wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:so they essentially made it up, but believed it is what God wanted

no, they knew what God wanted them to write, and they wrote it down.

how did they know?

i don't know how God works, but i would guess that the Holy spirit entered them, judging from the other things the Bible says he does.

Ok so you don't know that it happened, you are just assuming. Correct?

i know that God effected the people that wrote the Bible, so that what He wanted got in.

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:666 = Nero, the current emperor of Rome at the time
Go look it up

And what about all of the other gospels written at the time? There are hundreds of gospels, and yet only 4 that agree with what the editors wanted.

how exactly do you get letters out of numbers? sounds like conspirator crap to me.

Nero Caesar in aramaic is spelled NRON KSR. Aramaic letters have numeral values like roman numerals.
N= 50
R=200
O= 6
N= 50
K=100
S= 60
R=200
.....666

did they use those for names? i mean, when someone said "Nero Ceasar' would they automaticall think 666?

No, not everyone would automatically think that unless they knew Aramaic, which was generally the poor of the Roman Empire. Therefore, the leaders of the Roman Empire would not realize that John was talking about the empire.

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:so they essentially made it up, but believed it is what God wanted

no, they knew what God wanted them to write, and they wrote it down.

how did they know?

i don't know how God works, but i would guess that the Holy spirit entered them, judging from the other things the Bible says he does.

Ok so you don't know that it happened, you are just assuming. Correct?

i know that God effected the people that wrote the Bible, so that what He wanted got in.

How do you know? You weren't there and nobody can prove that it happened. There is absolutely no evidence to support your claim.

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

Adonai wrote:I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours

no I'm not atheist.

Yes you are according to a Muslim or a Hindu. You worship a pagan god and are therefore an atheist.

And yes, I do believe that a man named Jesus walked the Earth around 2000 years ago claiming to be the son of god and a bunch of people believed him just because

Read what I said ^

But I agree with what you said about jesus, we have people now who claim to the the son of god. But I think we as humans, have become more civialized and realize you cant believe every crazy person you meet

name one person now who says they are the son of God.

well my dad works at a hospital with, not all there folk. He tells me how they have a few guys who claim to be jesus..sorry I dont know their names..haha

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:^ true, I wish they would at least accept that their relgion might not be the 'right religion'. But thats out of the question

it is. why would we follow a fake God? because that's what we would be doing if we didn't think this was the right "religion".

So I guess every other religion is following a fake god then huh?? Wow you should tell them they're just wasting their time.

SourWorms wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:666 = Nero, the current emperor of Rome at the time
Go look it up

And what about all of the other gospels written at the time? There are hundreds of gospels, and yet only 4 that agree with what the editors wanted.

how exactly do you get letters out of numbers? sounds like conspirator crap to me.

Nero Caesar in aramaic is spelled NRON KSR. Aramaic letters have numeral values like roman numerals.
N= 50
R=200
O= 6
N= 50
K=100
S= 60
R=200
.....666

did they use those for names? i mean, when someone said "Nero Ceasar' would they automaticall think 666?

No, not everyone would automatically think that unless they knew Aramaic, which was generally the poor of the Roman Empire. Therefore, the leaders of the Roman Empire would not realize that John was talking about the empire.

i don't really understand why John wouldn't just say Nero or w/e instead of 666.

plus that's one small thing in the book of Revelations out of hundreds. how do you explain the opening of the scrools, the four horseman, or the creatures that were eternally worshippin God?

Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:^ true, I wish they would at least accept that their relgion might not be the 'right religion'. But thats out of the question

it is. why would we follow a fake God? because that's what we would be doing if we didn't think this was the right "religion".

So I guess every other religion is following a fake god then huh?? Wow you should tell them they're just wasting their time.

that's the jist of it.

Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:^ true, I wish they would at least accept that their relgion might not be the 'right religion'. But thats out of the question

it is. why would we follow a fake God? because that's what we would be doing if we didn't think this was the right "religion".

So I guess every other religion is following a fake god then huh?? Wow you should tell them they're just wasting their time.

Mohammed claimed to be the messiah, why don't you guys just randomly believe him?

Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

Adonai wrote:I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours

no I'm not atheist.

Yes you are according to a Muslim or a Hindu. You worship a pagan god and are therefore an atheist.

And yes, I do believe that a man named Jesus walked the Earth around 2000 years ago claiming to be the son of god and a bunch of people believed him just because

Read what I said ^

But I agree with what you said about jesus, we have people now who claim to the the son of god. But I think we as humans, have become more civialized and realize you cant believe every crazy person you meet

name one person now who says they are the son of God.

well my dad works at a hospital with, not all there folk. He tells me how they have a few guys who claim to be jesus..sorry I dont know their names..haha

i think we should rule out people that are legally insane

Maybe Jesus was insane

SourWorms wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:^ true, I wish they would at least accept that their relgion might not be the 'right religion'. But thats out of the question

it is. why would we follow a fake God? because that's what we would be doing if we didn't think this was the right "religion".

So I guess every other religion is following a fake god then huh?? Wow you should tell them they're just wasting their time.

Mohammed claimed to be the messiah, why don't you guys just randomly believe him?

because we KNOW jesus is God. all the other "gods" are dead. mine is alive.

SourWorms wrote:Maybe Jesus was insane

an insane person that could heal people, raise them from the dead, and make violent storms go away, just because it was His will.

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:^ true, I wish they would at least accept that their relgion might not be the 'right religion'. But thats out of the question

it is. why would we follow a fake God? because that's what we would be doing if we didn't think this was the right "religion".

So I guess every other religion is following a fake god then huh?? Wow you should tell them they're just wasting their time.

Mohammed claimed to be the messiah, why don't you guys just randomly believe him?

because we KNOW jesus is God. all the other "gods" are dead. mine is alive.

How is Jesus alive, he was crucified

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:Maybe Jesus was insane

an insane person that could heal people, raise them from the dead, and make violent storms go away, just because it was His will.

You don't know that any of that happened

SourWorms wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:^ true, I wish they would at least accept that their relgion might not be the 'right religion'. But thats out of the question

it is. why would we follow a fake God? because that's what we would be doing if we didn't think this was the right "religion".

So I guess every other religion is following a fake god then huh?? Wow you should tell them they're just wasting their time.

Mohammed claimed to be the messiah, why don't you guys just randomly believe him?

because we KNOW jesus is God. all the other "gods" are dead. mine is alive.

How is Jesus alive, he was crucified

and then he conquered the grave in 3 days. you know I believe that.

SourWorms wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

SourWorms wrote:Maybe Jesus was insane

an insane person that could heal people, raise them from the dead, and make violent storms go away, just because it was His will.

You don't know that any of that happened

yes i do.