Evolution vs. Intelligent Design

SourWorms wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

Adonai wrote:I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours

no I'm not atheist.

Yes you are according to a Muslim or a Hindu. You worship a pagan god and are therefore an atheist.

And yes, I do believe that a man named Jesus walked the Earth around 2000 years ago claiming to be the son of god and a bunch of people believed him just because

Read what I said ^

But I agree with what you said about jesus, we have people now who claim to the the son of god. But I think we as humans, have become more civialized and realize you cant believe every crazy person you meet

SourWorms wrote:

Adonai wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

Adonai wrote:I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours

no I'm not atheist.

and yet you are. to be atheist is to explicitly deny the existence of one or more gods. I think you fall under that category. that is, as long as you do not believe in Alaaheemos: Lord of the Jedi.

All of you should read about my religion, I am no atheist.

www.thejediismway.org

psh pastafarianism is waay cooler.

yeah at least you can see FSM, nobody can prove Jesus existed

fsm? que?? haha

Pinthin wrote:fsm? que?? haha

wow you obviously don't know much about your own religion. Flying Spaghetti Monster = FSM. Creator of the Universe according to Pastafarianism

i believe humanity was sneezed out of the nose of an enormous aardvark.

SourWorms wrote:

Pinthin wrote:fsm? que?? haha

wow you obviously don't know much about your own religion. Flying Spaghetti Monster = FSM. Creator of the Universe according to Pastafarianism

haha I was kidding about being one of them, I just like telling people that because its soo cool.haha And I know what the flying spaghetti monster is, I just wasnt sure what you were talking about. Its too late to think

and you can only see the FSM when your smoking cannabis, so you must see him alot huh?? ahahaha

Adonai wrote:i believe humanity was sneezed out of the nose of an enormous aardvark.

Wow you are an idiot. Its completely obvious that God created the heavens and the earth in 7 days with all flora and fauna present exactly as it is today. We are all inbred from Adam and Eve, even though incest is specifically forbade in the Bible, but its okay because the Bible can never be wrong because God wrote it himself! If you don't accept that you are an idiot! Every scientist ever has disproved this "evolution" and especially the Aardvarkian Creation Myth. You obviously need to go study your history and science

and i know you was kidding. FSM is about as plausible as a man in the clouds watching everyone

SourWorms wrote:

Adonai wrote:i believe humanity was sneezed out of the nose of an enormous aardvark.

Wow you are an idiot. Its completely obvious that God created the heavens and the earth in 7 days with all flora and fauna present exactly as it is today. We are all inbred from Adam and Eve, even though incest is specifically forbade in the Bible, but its okay because the Bible can never be wrong because God wrote it himself! If you don't accept that you are an idiot! Every scientist ever has disproved this "evolution" and especially the Aardvarkian Creation Myth. You obviously need to go study your history and science

My bad. You are right. I have been studying unreliable sources. I need to get my nose out of the encyclopedias and science books and take up more concrete sources. Such as the bible.

Yeah just take a look at my history book, the unedited and ucorrupted Byzantine Catholic Bible

SourWorms wrote:

Adonai wrote:i believe humanity was sneezed out of the nose of an enormous aardvark.

Its completely obvious that God created the heavens and the earth in 7 days

I wonder what God used as his reference to define a day..

GOD DOES NOT NEED REFERENCES

God just used the terms day to set up the week....6 days of work and 1 day of rest

Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

Trackaholic wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

TnF_T wrote:

FK wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

FK wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

FK wrote:

mae2937 wrote:
except for the fact that you are telling them about the gospel which if you accept it will give you eternal life in heaven

Yeah. (insert Bible quote that refers to that but I can't remember the exact words here)

somethig along the lines of: What is the point of gaining the whole world and then losing your soul?

It's like "those who are hungry will be fed."

In heaven, but what does that do for those kids who are dying terrible deaths on earth

A life on earth is temporary, a life in heaven is forever.

How do you know what heaven is like, no one can come back from the dead and tell us all.....oh nevermind, i forgot, god will tell you

and if there is no heaven?? you wasted your entire life learning about make-believe ,
But there is absolutley noo way you could be wrong

sorry if that sounded harsh

If there is no heaven, then there is no hell! If I die and there is no god, no hell, no heaven, no angels....well, whats so bad about that? I will simply die, and my life will be over. end of story. How can I regret there not being a heaven if I am dead?

I will tell you one thing though, if I die a sinner who denies the existance of heaven and hell, and I turn out to be wrong and I go to hell...I am going to be in suffering and regret for ALL eternity.

Seems to me the odds are better on my side pinthin, I have a lot less at stake than you do.

I'm not too worried
besides who knows that I wont be reincarnated? I wont become a part of jiva and have another earth life?

ok, don't be worried. just keep worrying about earthly garbage that won't matter in 100 years anyway.

I wont because I'll be worm food, and that doesnt bother me. haha I just dont think anyone wants to accept that when you die you just die. So they made up something that made them happy =) like that. So you can "look foward" to dying.

i will, thanks.

Pinthin wrote:^ true, I wish they would at least accept that their relgion might not be the 'right religion'. But thats out of the question

it is. why would we follow a fake God? because that's what we would be doing if we didn't think this was the right "religion".

Pinthin wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

Adonai wrote:I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours

no I'm not atheist.

Yes you are according to a Muslim or a Hindu. You worship a pagan god and are therefore an atheist.

And yes, I do believe that a man named Jesus walked the Earth around 2000 years ago claiming to be the son of god and a bunch of people believed him just because

Read what I said ^

But I agree with what you said about jesus, we have people now who claim to the the son of god. But I think we as humans, have become more civialized and realize you cant believe every crazy person you meet

name one person now who says they are the son of God.

SourWorms wrote:

Adonai wrote:i believe humanity was sneezed out of the nose of an enormous aardvark.

Wow you are an idiot. Its completely obvious that God created the heavens and the earth in 7 days with all flora and fauna present exactly as it is today. We are all inbred from Adam and Eve, even though incest is specifically forbade in the Bible, but its okay because the Bible can never be wrong because God wrote it himself! If you don't accept that you are an idiot! Every scientist ever has disproved this "evolution" and especially the Aardvarkian Creation Myth. You obviously need to go study your history and science

God is not a dense, linear thinking literalist like you.

When there was only adam and eve, they had to commit to incest because it was the only way to survive. Also, god told adam and eve to be fruitful and multiply. thirdly, god would not condemn them for incest seeing as incest did not even exist back then. There was only one family, thus, there was no such thing as incest, for in order to have incest you must have another family of no relation.

nowdays, with a population of 6 billion, there is no need for incest, and thus it is not needed for survival and therefore a sin.

and so far sourworms, your sarcasm and mockery does not account for the fact that your carbon dating is flawed, your geologists use circular reasoning, and your omo and lucy remains are nothing but crock. You have not supplied any reason for me to believe otherwise. other than "omg! my mom spent all her life as a geologist! she cannot be wrong!"

try again.

And yes sourworms, the 7 days of creation were symbolic, seeing as the 24 hour clock is a creation of man. And seeing as god controlled the sun, and thus the evening and dawn. one day could have represented 5 minutes or 5 years.

SourWorms wrote:Yeah just take a look at my history book, the unedited and ucorrupted Byzantine Catholic Bible

if you did edit the byzantine catholic bible, it would no longer be the byzantine catholic bible now would it? it would be a rendition of the king james bible instead.

Trackaholic wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

Adonai wrote:i believe humanity was sneezed out of the nose of an enormous aardvark.

Wow you are an idiot. Its completely obvious that God created the heavens and the earth in 7 days with all flora and fauna present exactly as it is today. We are all inbred from Adam and Eve, even though incest is specifically forbade in the Bible, but its okay because the Bible can never be wrong because God wrote it himself! If you don't accept that you are an idiot! Every scientist ever has disproved this "evolution" and especially the Aardvarkian Creation Myth. You obviously need to go study your history and science

God is not a dense, linear thinking literalist like you.

When there was only adam and eve, they had to commit to incest because it was the only way to survive. Also, god told adam and eve to be fruitful and multiply. thirdly, god would not condemn them for incest seeing as incest did not even exist back then. There was only one family, thus, there was no such thing as incest, for in order to have incest you must have another family of no relation.

nowdays, with a population of 6 billion, there is no need for incest, and thus it is not needed for survival and therefore a sin.

plus that's one of the reason he made Eve in the first place.

Trackaholic wrote:

SourWorms wrote:Yeah just take a look at my history book, the unedited and ucorrupted Byzantine Catholic Bible

if you did edit the byzantine catholic bible, it would no longer be the byzantine catholic bible now would it? it would be a rendition of the king james bible instead.

i don't get it. why is the byzantine bible so great?

Adonai wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

Adonai wrote:i believe humanity was sneezed out of the nose of an enormous aardvark.

Wow you are an idiot. Its completely obvious that God created the heavens and the earth in 7 days with all flora and fauna present exactly as it is today. We are all inbred from Adam and Eve, even though incest is specifically forbade in the Bible, but its okay because the Bible can never be wrong because God wrote it himself! If you don't accept that you are an idiot! Every scientist ever has disproved this "evolution" and especially the Aardvarkian Creation Myth. You obviously need to go study your history and science

My bad. You are right. I have been studying unreliable sources. I need to get my nose out of the encyclopedias and science books and take up more concrete sources. Such as the bible.

encyclopedias and science books are concrete sources of information, for all the facts (disregard the theories presented as facts) do not conflict with the bible or the church!

Science and religon go hand in hand, sourworms/adonia... and you too pinthin. you can continue to play these silly games and your make believe world where all christians disregard science in whole...it is not true. We christians embrace science as the truth. to not do so would be irrational.

however, we do not support radical theories, such as evolution, which have no basis or proof. we only support the science which has been proven to undisputably be true.

Trackaholic wrote:

Adonai wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

Adonai wrote:i believe humanity was sneezed out of the nose of an enormous aardvark.

Wow you are an idiot. Its completely obvious that God created the heavens and the earth in 7 days with all flora and fauna present exactly as it is today. We are all inbred from Adam and Eve, even though incest is specifically forbade in the Bible, but its okay because the Bible can never be wrong because God wrote it himself! If you don't accept that you are an idiot! Every scientist ever has disproved this "evolution" and especially the Aardvarkian Creation Myth. You obviously need to go study your history and science

My bad. You are right. I have been studying unreliable sources. I need to get my nose out of the encyclopedias and science books and take up more concrete sources. Such as the bible.

encyclopedias and science books are concrete sources of information, for all the facts (disregard the theories presented as facts) do not conflict with the bible or the church!

Science and religon go hand in hand, sourworms/adonia... and you too pinthin. you can continue to play these silly games and your make believe world where all christians disregard science in whole...it is not true. We christians embrace science as the truth. to not do so would be irrational.

however, we do not support radical theories, such as evolution, which have no basis or proof. we only support the science which has been proven to undisputably be true.

you can't speak for every christian, but otherwise +1.

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Trackaholic wrote:

SourWorms wrote:Yeah just take a look at my history book, the unedited and ucorrupted Byzantine Catholic Bible

if you did edit the byzantine catholic bible, it would no longer be the byzantine catholic bible now would it? it would be a rendition of the king james bible instead.

i don't get it. why is the byzantine bible so great?

the king james bible and bible such as the new american bible were taken up by heretics and edited to adapt to radical thinkings and heresy. In many cases, a single verse will have entirely different meanings given what bible it comes from.

example:

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=John%203:5;&version=31;

you can see the verse changes drastically given what bible it comes from. sadly, the website does not include any byzantine or roman catholic versions.