Where Did God Go?????

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CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?

Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".

annd?

that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.

I meant that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.

So who is right?

who knows. maybe you, maybe science, maybe nobody.

It's an argument you need a side.

okay obviously I would go with science. has evidence (yeah yeah lets not go there again)

I'm on the side of science too, science isn't a religion, it's in a lot of religions.

they have "science". we have science. get it?

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CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?

Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".

annd?

that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.

I meant that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.

So who is right?

who knows. maybe you, maybe science, maybe nobody.

It's an argument you need a side.

okay obviously I would go with science. has evidence (yeah yeah lets not go there again)

I'm on the side of science too, science isn't a religion, it's in a lot of religions.

they have "science". we have science. get it?

Even your friend SW says science fits in with the catholic church.

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AudienceOfOne wrote:

CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?

Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".

annd?

that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.

I meant that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.

So who is right?

who knows. maybe you, maybe science, maybe nobody.

It's an argument you need a side.

okay obviously I would go with science. has evidence (yeah yeah lets not go there again)

why? we barely know anything. even from an atheist's perspective, they must be equally credible.

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CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?

Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".

annd?

that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.

I meant that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.

So who is right?

who knows. maybe you, maybe science, maybe nobody.

It's an argument you need a side.

okay obviously I would go with science. has evidence (yeah yeah lets not go there again)

why? we barely know anything. even from an atheist's perspective, they must be equally credible.

From an atheists perspective they are going to be more credible in everything lol.

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Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?

Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".

annd?

that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.

I meant that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.

So who is right?

who knows. maybe you, maybe science, maybe nobody.

It's an argument you need a side.

okay obviously I would go with science. has evidence (yeah yeah lets not go there again)

I'm on the side of science too, science isn't a religion, it's in a lot of religions.

like tracko tried to explain.

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Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?

Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".

annd?

that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.

I meant that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.

So who is right?

who knows. maybe you, maybe science, maybe nobody.

It's an argument you need a side.

okay obviously I would go with science. has evidence (yeah yeah lets not go there again)

I'm on the side of science too, science isn't a religion, it's in a lot of religions.

they have "science". we have science. get it?

Even your friend SW says science fits in with the catholic church.

friend?? hahaha no.

I'm done arguing about religion.. again.. for sure this time.

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CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?

Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".

annd?

that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.

I meant that doesnt mean everyone else is wrong.

yes it does.

that didnt sound the least big ignorant to you?

2+2=4 it can't equal anything else. Is that ignorant?

haha wow, woooow.

I cant believe it, how you cant see how bad that sounds.

ok, see it from our perspective.

the Bible is truth. that must rule out all other answers.

2+2=4. that must rule out all other answers.

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Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?

Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".

annd?

that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.

I meant that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.

So who is right?

who knows. maybe you, maybe science, maybe nobody.

It's an argument you need a side.

okay obviously I would go with science. has evidence (yeah yeah lets not go there again)

I'm on the side of science too, science isn't a religion, it's in a lot of religions.

they have "science". we have science. get it?

lol. you have no idea...nvm.

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Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?

Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".

annd?

that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.

I meant that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.

So who is right?

who knows. maybe you, maybe science, maybe nobody.

It's an argument you need a side.

okay obviously I would go with science. has evidence (yeah yeah lets not go there again)

I'm on the side of science too, science isn't a religion, it's in a lot of religions.

they have "science". we have science. get it?

Even your friend SW says science fits in with the catholic church.

friend?? hahaha no.

I'm done arguing about religion.. again.. for sure this time.

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FinishingKick wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

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Pinthin wrote:

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Pinthin wrote:

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Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?

Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".

annd?

that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.

I meant that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.

So who is right?

who knows. maybe you, maybe science, maybe nobody.

It's an argument you need a side.

okay obviously I would go with science. has evidence (yeah yeah lets not go there again)

I'm on the side of science too, science isn't a religion, it's in a lot of religions.

they have "science". we have science. get it?

Even your friend SW says science fits in with the catholic church.

friend?? hahaha no.

I'm done arguing about religion.. again.. for sure this time.

You can't escape it forever.

There is no such thing as sin. It's all a bunch of social mores.

CT Track wrote:There is no such thing as sin. It's all a bunch of social mores.

Where's your evidence?

CT Track wrote:There is no such thing as sin. It's all a bunch of social mores.

Yup, you aren't accountable for anything.

Because the soul is pure. Without the brain there would be no sin. A sin is defined by those who define it. It's basic sociology.

CT Track wrote:Because the soul is pure. Without the brain there would be no sin. A sin is defined by those who define it. It's basic sociology.

opinion.

A sin is defined by god, a "bad deed" is defined by those who define it.

BagoXC25 wrote:A sin is defined by god, a "bad deed" is defined by those who define it.

god never actually told anyone what a sin is. because according to all of you he speaks through people, so in effect: sin is a man-conceived idea.

and for the record, i don't believe in god, but i believe that the catholic church is an invaluable source of inspiration and that the message of the church is correct. the morals that it presents are right on spot and agree with most of them tenfold.

i believe in the message of the bible, but not the information in the bible

So if heaven and hell is decided between the amount of sin accrued, then must we never die? Sin is dictated by the mind and body, not the soul. Or are we just decided at conception whether or not we'll go to heaven or hell, because the soul is innocent and pure. I believe sin is just the self conscience created by Catholics to control society. While I believe in what's right and what's wrong, enlightenments have come to realize what these priests and cardinals have done. This is why many religions have out branched and created a new.

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BagoXC25 wrote:A sin is defined by god, a "bad deed" is defined by those who define it.

god never actually told anyone what a sin is. because according to all of you he speaks through people, so in effect: sin is a man-conceived idea.

and for the record, i don't believe in god, but i believe that the catholic church is an invaluable source of inspiration and that the message of the church is correct. the morals that it presents are right on spot and agree with most of them tenfold.

i believe in the message of the bible, but not the information in the bible

That's exactly how I and many others in this world believe. We believe in right and wrong, but we don't need an imaginary figure to consolidate those beliefs. And I sure as hell don't need to worry about big brother watching over my shoulder. God only seems to be a Santa Claus type figure that is just backed up with more "evidence".

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CT Track wrote:There is no such thing as sin. It's all a bunch of social mores.

Yup, you aren't accountable for anything.

Of course you're accountable for things. It's just that sins are relative among cultures. It's considered a Koranic sin in Saudi Arabia for women to drive, but clearly, that's a cultural ideal.

About morals..... God can be considered a symbol for society. All of the ten commandments help hold the society together. Worship of the same God holds people together. Not killing or stealing keeps society from falling apart. Not envying others further prevents theft. Children who listen to their parents are more likely to survive(honor father and mother.) So if you understand evolution, you can consider the idea that we adopted belief in God because it helps our society survive...

This is what my philosophy class decided was true at least, lol....even if you don't believe this, it helps you look at religion logically

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BagoXC25 wrote:A sin is defined by god, a "bad deed" is defined by those who define it.

god never actually told anyone what a sin is. because according to all of you he speaks through people, so in effect: sin is a man-conceived idea.

and for the record, i don't believe in god, but i believe that the catholic church is an invaluable source of inspiration and that the message of the church is correct. the morals that it presents are right on spot and agree with most of them tenfold.

i believe in the message of the bible, but not the information in the bible

so i guess carving some of them on a couple stone tablets won't do it for you?

CT Track wrote:So if heaven and hell is decided between the amount of sin accrued, then must we never die? Sin is dictated by the mind and body, not the soul. Or are we just decided at conception whether or not we'll go to heaven or hell, because the soul is innocent and pure. I believe sin is just the self conscience created by Catholics to control society. While I believe in what's right and what's wrong, enlightenments have come to realize what these priests and cardinals have done. This is why many religions have out branched and created a new.

no, you still don't get it. heaven and hell is not determined on how much you sin or how many good deeds you do. we're saved by grace. by being faithful, and repenting, we are saved. you can't get into heaven by good deeds or get into hell by bad ones. we all fall short.

CT Track wrote:

SourWorms wrote:

BagoXC25 wrote:A sin is defined by god, a "bad deed" is defined by those who define it.

god never actually told anyone what a sin is. because according to all of you he speaks through people, so in effect: sin is a man-conceived idea.

and for the record, i don't believe in god, but i believe that the catholic church is an invaluable source of inspiration and that the message of the church is correct. the morals that it presents are right on spot and agree with most of them tenfold.

i believe in the message of the bible, but not the information in the bible

That's exactly how I and many others in this world believe. We believe in right and wrong, but we don't need an imaginary figure to consolidate those beliefs. And I sure as hell don't need to worry about big brother watching over my shoulder. God only seems to be a Santa Claus type figure that is just backed up with more "evidence".

if that's all christianity is(making people do good deeds), then why not let it be like islam, where you can only get to heaven through good works and staying away from sin?

So we get by on dick sucking. Everything in life just seems relative now.