Where Did God Go?????

being from ohio doesn't cause us to be able to listen to god.

but i get what you mean how it may be easier to be a "good" christian here--however i don't think i could ever really consider myself as a good christian.

QUESTION: How many of you have physically heard God's voice? All of you firm believers. What does he sound like? I am interested.

He sounds like Mike Scalzi, except with less balls.

I wasn't at all surprised.

What can you say to the natural instinct to call for help? You often hear atheists say things like, "Oh my God!" when they're in trouble. As the saying goes, there are no atheists in foxholes.

Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:well when I was little I use to "believe". I guess he didn't like me =/

you would have had to listen. read the bible, pray, spend some time with him, read some good christian books. heck, even if you didn't do any of that you should still be able to say it.

or maybe you were just faking it. if your faith was weak enough to turn into an atheist(or whatever you call yourself), then maybe you never truly believed, and you were still sinning. in the OT it tells us that if your motives aren't pure than he might not reveal himself to you.

I considered my self pretty good. I went to church with my fam, I read part of the bible (short attention span, prayed before I went to bed and etc. OH and my fave movie were those ones about moses and joesph..cartoon??haha eh anyways I don’t know how else I could have spent time. I guess I wasn’t good enough . I considered myself to be good.

When I hit high school and started learning about all these different religions I just started "opening" up to new things I guess. I'm just throwing this out there.. You live in Ohio it’s a lot more conservative then Washington. Maybe it’s just where I'm from how being non-Christian isn’t as a big of a deal... I don’t know just thought I'd throw that out there. I notice it with all my relatives that come from the mid-west anyways. And I’m not atheist for the billionth time, I’m agnostic but I'm fond of Buddhism. I have a Buddhist friend and I don’t know, I really like their religion, its very peaceful.

i hate it when christians say that. you aren't saved because you're "good", you're saved by grace.

just because ohio is more conservative doesn't mean anything to me. my high school is full of people trying to act gangsta. we also have a ton of foreign exchange students. it'd be easy to just ignore God, because that's what everyone else does. i used to know a couple muslims until they moved to jordan. so it's not like i'm not exposed to other religions.

buddhism is a peaceful religion, but so is christianity.

BA_Sadie. wrote:being from ohio doesn't cause us to be able to listen to god.

but i get what you mean how it may be easier to be a "good" christian here--however i don't think i could ever really consider myself as a good christian.

nobody can. we all fall short. that's one of the biggest diffences between us and the religions.

SourWorms wrote:QUESTION: How many of you have physically heard God's voice? All of you firm believers. What does he sound like? I am interested.

stupid question.who said they physically have heard God's voice? we can hear him through the holy spirit working in our lives, answered prayers, his word, and other individual things.

^exactly, in my opinion God makes himself heard in other ways so that no physical voice is neccessary

I prefer more of the followings of Hinduism, however I don't consider myself any set religion.

Pinthin wrote:

AudienceOfOne wrote:

Pinthin wrote:well when I was little I use to "believe". I guess he didn't like me =/

you would have had to listen. read the bible, pray, spend some time with him, read some good christian books. heck, even if you didn't do any of that you should still be able to say it.

or maybe you were just faking it. if your faith was weak enough to turn into an atheist(or whatever you call yourself), then maybe you never truly believed, and you were still sinning. in the OT it tells us that if your motives aren't pure than he might not reveal himself to you.

I considered my self pretty good. I went to church with my fam, I read part of the bible (short attention span, prayed before I went to bed and etc. OH and my fave movie were those ones about moses and joesph..cartoon??haha eh anyways I don’t know how else I could have spent time. I guess I wasn’t good enough . I considered myself to be good.

When I hit high school and started learning about all these different religions I just started "opening" up to new things I guess. I'm just throwing this out there.. You live in Ohio it’s a lot more conservative then Washington. Maybe it’s just where I'm from how being non-Christian isn’t as a big of a deal... I don’t know just thought I'd throw that out there. I notice it with all my relatives that come from the mid-west anyways. And I’m not atheist for the billionth time, I’m agnostic but I'm fond of Buddhism. I have a Buddhist friend and I don’t know, I really like their religion, its very peaceful.

plus who says all christians are conservative yes most are but my denomination (presbyterian) is actually mostly liberal.

AudienceOfOne wrote:

BA_Sadie. wrote:being from ohio doesn't cause us to be able to listen to god.

but i get what you mean how it may be easier to be a "good" christian here--however i don't think i could ever really consider myself as a good christian.

nobody can. we all fall short. that's one of the biggest diffences between us and the religions.

yeah i know i just couldn't really put the words together ha.

Pinthin wrote:And I’m not atheist for the billionth time, I’m agnostic but I'm fond of Buddhism.

I don't like agnostics, they don't even have the faith to believe that nothing's out there.

So she is ignorant for not believing in what she can't see, while you aren't when faith is the complete basis of ignorance. I see you point....

CT Track wrote:So she is ignorant for not believing in what she can't see, while you aren't when faith is the complete basis of ignorance. I see you point....

funny.

yet true

no.

And you are lead to believe that because...

SourWorms wrote:QUESTION: How many of you have physically heard God's voice? All of you firm believers. What does he sound like? I am interested.

we dont hear his voice, but we do hear his words. if youve ever gone to church you hear god speak through someone who is willing to let him do that. we dont have prophets persay anymore but we do have priests and preachers. i think they are very similar because they help spread the word of god and help those people who dont hear god in the way they do find a way to hear him and love him. if we didnt have preachers and churches i think that there would be nut jobs and people who didnt believe in anything and didnt like the nut jobs because they didnt understand them. thats how god helps us. if anyone can even understand what i said the way i understand it then they will understand.

... i can see the effects of Him in my life.

Some people see the effects in a different way. God is not the explanation for everything you see. However on topic with what I was trying to say; It is quite ironic for someone to call a person ignorant for believing that something doesn't exist because there really is no proof, yet that is exactly what faith is. Explaining and believing in something despite having no proof. The effects of him in your life is again faith. You can believe that what happens in your everyday life is from God, but you can also believe that it happens because of coincidence, the decisions you make, or just luck. Whether or not you choose to accept that, it is faith. And faith is purely ignorance.

FinishingKick wrote:

Pinthin wrote:And I’m not atheist for the billionth time, I’m agnostic but I'm fond of Buddhism.

I don't like agnostics, they don't even have the faith to believe that nothing's out there.

I'm sorry.

[quote="CT Track"]Some people see the effects in a different way. God is not the explanation for everything you see. However on topic with what I was trying to say; It is quite ironic for someone to call a person ignorant for believing that something doesn't exist because there really is no proof, yet that is exactly what faith is. Explaining and believing in something despite having no proof. The effects of him in your life is again faith. You can believe that what happens in your everyday life is from God, but you can also believe that it happens because of coincidence, the decisions you make, or just luck. Whether or not you choose to accept that, it is faith. And faith is purely ignorance.[/quote]

i'd love to see the dictionary you're using

wouldn't another form of ignorance be that you aren't able to believe in anything you can't see? i mean, it'd be ignorant to say that we know everything there is to know, so why can't you believe something that hasn't been proved?

BA_Sadie. wrote:being from ohio doesn't cause us to be able to listen to god.

but i get what you mean how it may be easier to be a "good" christian here--however i don't think i could ever really consider myself as a good christian.

I know.

I was going off topic on how it doesnt seem weird to people out here to not be christian.. Because we aren't as conservative or w/e.

xc_babe09 wrote:

SourWorms wrote:QUESTION: How many of you have physically heard God's voice? All of you firm believers. What does he sound like? I am interested.

we dont hear his voice, but we do hear his words. if youve ever gone to church you hear god speak through someone who is willing to let him do that. we dont have prophets persay anymore but we do have priests and preachers. i think they are very similar because they help spread the word of god and help those people who dont hear god in the way they do find a way to hear him and love him. if we didnt have preachers and churches i think that there would be nut jobs and people who didnt believe in anything and didnt like the nut jobs because they didnt understand them. thats how god helps us. if anyone can even understand what i said the way i understand it then they will understand.

no offense.. but that sounds like crazy talk.

Crazy people hear voices all the time. Maybe they aren't really crazy at all, they must truly be hearing those voices. and no I'm not calling anyone crazy or insane so don't go there.

its almost like a placebo effect.

it does sound like crazy talk. lol. i guess you have to think like me to understand it. it was coming in a stream of consciousness form. so it would sound messed up to anyone but me.