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ProtestTheZero wrote:

BagoXC25 wrote:Ok your right, kenyans and ethiopians are wrong. Close the thread I guess...

Do you not see the difference?

Kenyans and Ethiopians spend their whole live barefoot. They don't decide to start running barefoot a little when they are teenagers, they walk everywhere barefoot, they run barefoot, they have developed the foot strength to do it.

To think you can just start doing that one day for no real reason is ridiculous.

REGARDLESS, there is no reason to think that running barefoot is going to help you at all anyway. People who think running shoes actually increase the chance of injury are just conspiracy theorists. They are a dime a dozen and are just looking to make excuses.

If any of you start running barefoot, you will hurt yourself, bottom line. It won't make you more injury proof, it won't make you faster, it will make you break down and have to take a few weeks off training.

So don't come in here and start condescending about how I must be stupid because some east Africans don't wear shoes.

FinishingKick wrote:I use that site a lot, I've been wanting to run barefoot for a while, but there's no place to do it.

ProtestTheZero wrote:

BagoXC25 wrote:Ok your right, kenyans and ethiopians are wrong. Close the thread I guess...

Do you not see the difference?

Kenyans and Ethiopians spend their whole live barefoot. They don't decide to start running barefoot a little when they are teenagers, they walk everywhere barefoot, they run barefoot, they have developed the foot strength to do it.

To think you can just start doing that one day for no real reason is ridiculous.

REGARDLESS, there is no reason to think that running barefoot is going to help you at all anyway. People who think running shoes actually increase the chance of injury are just conspiracy theorists. They are a dime a dozen and are just looking to make excuses.

If any of you start running barefoot, you will hurt yourself, bottom line. It won't make you more injury proof, it won't make you faster, it will make you break down and have to take a few weeks off training.

So don't come in here and start condescending about how I must be stupid because some east Africans don't wear shoes.

FinishingKick wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

Through_the_Pain wrote:never heard of McDougal but ill look him up

YOU SICKEN ME

THAT'S PATHETIC.

WOW...

It's pathetic that somebody doesn't study elite distance running? No, it's not!
It's pathetic that someone trolls a random running forum all day impersonating people who have actually made something of themselves.

And if you know all these elite distance runners so well, and "hang out" with them, then please tell me, what's your name?

WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT?

YOU DONT HAVE TO "STUDY" ELITE RUNNING TO KNOW WHO MCDOUGAL IS, CONSIDERING WHAT HES DONE..

THATS JUST SAD IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO HE IS.

AND I DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT, SO YOU SHOULD PROBABLY STOP BEFORE YOU SOUND LIKE EVEN MORE OF AN IDIOT THAN YOU DO NOW, JUS SAYIN.

AND UMM, U STOCKIN?

AND IM NOT FRAUDIN, ITS NOT REALLY THAT "HARD" TO MEET "ELITE" RUNNERS.

WE'LL WAIT AND SEE, I WANT TO WAIT TILL I HAVE ONE GOOD SEASON UNDER MY BELT AFTER ALL OF THIS TRAINING

So you don't even run in elite meets, yet somehow you meet elite runners? This is your worst impersonation yet.

...DID I EVER SAY THAT?

FIRST OF ALL, YOU DONT HAVE TO RUN IN ELITE MEETS (THOUGH I DONT THINK I SAID I DIDNT BUT WHATEVER WE CAN STOP ON THAT TOPIC)
SECOND OF ALL, IM TRAINING LIKE CRAZY IN HOPES OF MAKING THAT ****IN NCAA TEAM
THIRD OF ALL, AGAIN I DONT KNOW WHAT IMPERSONATING YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

HAVE A GOOD DAY

its highly doubtful you will make it.
sorry to tell u this.

DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SINCE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MY TRAINING AND HOW MUCH IM TRAINING RIGHT NOW

BUT WHATEVER, WE'LL SEE IN NOVEMBER

lol and you dont know nothing about my training and how much i work my @ss off everyday. so i dont wanna hear nothing bout me not makin it. and i will shut my mouth about u not makin it.

...I WOULD BET THAT RIGHT NOW I AM PROBABLY DOING MORE THAN DOUBLE THE MILEAGE THAT YOURE DOING RIGHT NOW

AND ITS A LOT, LOT HARDER TO BECOME "PRO" THAN TO RUN AT NCAA. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I HAVE A MUCH HIGHER CHANCE (CONSIDERING MY PRS ARE A LOT BETTER) I DONT THINK YOU REALIZE HOW HARD IT IS TO GO PRO OR HOW MUCH TALENT IT TAKES

JUS SAYIN.

and you keep talkin about these prs of mine. lets hear them. but u are probably my age and a male. wat a coincidence. so i dont have any exuseses right? lol
and i doubt u are doing double my mileage.
u are all talk. but u dont give us prs, how old, your gender. grade anything.

You did 32 miles this past week (according to the weekly thread). Anyone trying to get anywhere in college running (let alone NCAAs) would easily be doing at least 64 miles a week right now.

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SINCE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MY TRAINING AND HOW MUCH IM TRAINING RIGHT NOW

BUT WHATEVER, WE'LL SEE IN NOVEMBER

lol and you dont know nothing about my training and how much i work my @ss off everyday. so i dont wanna hear nothing bout me not makin it. and i will shut my mouth about u not makin it.

...I WOULD BET THAT RIGHT NOW I AM PROBABLY DOING MORE THAN DOUBLE THE MILEAGE THAT YOURE DOING RIGHT NOW

AND ITS A LOT, LOT HARDER TO BECOME "PRO" THAN TO RUN AT NCAA. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I HAVE A MUCH HIGHER CHANCE (CONSIDERING MY PRS ARE A LOT BETTER) I DONT THINK YOU REALIZE HOW HARD IT IS TO GO PRO OR HOW MUCH TALENT IT TAKES

JUS SAYIN.

futureNIKErunner wrote:

FinishingKick wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

Through_the_Pain wrote:never heard of McDougal but ill look him up

YOU SICKEN ME

THAT'S PATHETIC.

WOW...

It's pathetic that somebody doesn't study elite distance running? No, it's not!
It's pathetic that someone trolls a random running forum all day impersonating people who have actually made something of themselves.

And if you know all these elite distance runners so well, and "hang out" with them, then please tell me, what's your name?

WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT?

YOU DONT HAVE TO "STUDY" ELITE RUNNING TO KNOW WHO MCDOUGAL IS, CONSIDERING WHAT HES DONE..

THATS JUST SAD IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO HE IS.

AND I DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT, SO YOU SHOULD PROBABLY STOP BEFORE YOU SOUND LIKE EVEN MORE OF AN IDIOT THAN YOU DO NOW, JUS SAYIN.

AND UMM, U STOCKIN?

AND IM NOT FRAUDIN, ITS NOT REALLY THAT "HARD" TO MEET "ELITE" RUNNERS.

WE'LL WAIT AND SEE, I WANT TO WAIT TILL I HAVE ONE GOOD SEASON UNDER MY BELT AFTER ALL OF THIS TRAINING

So you don't even run in elite meets, yet somehow you meet elite runners? This is your worst impersonation yet.

...DID I EVER SAY THAT?

FIRST OF ALL, YOU DONT HAVE TO RUN IN ELITE MEETS (THOUGH I DONT THINK I SAID I DIDNT BUT WHATEVER WE CAN STOP ON THAT TOPIC)
SECOND OF ALL, IM TRAINING LIKE CRAZY IN HOPES OF MAKING THAT ****IN NCAA TEAM
THIRD OF ALL, AGAIN I DONT KNOW WHAT IMPERSONATING YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

HAVE A GOOD DAY

its highly doubtful you will make it.
sorry to tell u this.

DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SINCE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MY TRAINING AND HOW MUCH IM TRAINING RIGHT NOW

BUT WHATEVER, WE'LL SEE IN NOVEMBER

lol and you dont know nothing about my training and how much i work my @ss off everyday. so i dont wanna hear nothing bout me not makin it. and i will shut my mouth about u not makin it.

...I WOULD BET THAT RIGHT NOW I AM PROBABLY DOING MORE THAN DOUBLE THE MILEAGE THAT YOURE DOING RIGHT NOW

AND ITS A LOT, LOT HARDER TO BECOME "PRO" THAN TO RUN AT NCAA. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I HAVE A MUCH HIGHER CHANCE (CONSIDERING MY PRS ARE A LOT BETTER) I DONT THINK YOU REALIZE HOW HARD IT IS TO GO PRO OR HOW MUCH TALENT IT TAKES

JUS SAYIN.

and you keep talkin about these prs of mine. lets hear them. but u are probably my age and a male. wat a coincidence. so i dont have any exuseses right? lol
and i doubt u are doing double my mileage.
u are all talk. but u dont give us prs, how old, your gender. grade anything.

You did 32 miles this past week (according to the weekly thread). Anyone trying to get anywhere in college running (let alone NCAAs) would easily be doing at least 64 miles a week right now.

i dont deny my low mileage @ all. i just do better on mileage between 30-40 mpw. anything higher and my training just gets slower. cause 75% of that is hard too.

ProtestTheZero wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

BagoXC25 wrote:I read the whole thing, and I thought it was a good article. I really like all he had to say about Lydiard, because (even though I KNOW he is an amazing coach) he is the kind of coach that is "hidden under the carpet" in the running world.

I completely agree with barefoot running and strengthening the feet in general. In trampoline, foot strength is pretty much the key to stability and we worked our feet A LOT. I think that has been one of the main reasons why I don't get injured.

And I might try nasal breathing, because I have an awful breathing problem whenever I race or do workouts, and it scares me and the people I run with. Kind of sounds like I could die at any moment...but anyways I'll try it and see if it helps.

+1, I'm gonna start running barefoot.

This is why this article is fucking trolling. You are going to pull a muscle in your foot, get a stress fracture, or develop some other foot issue if you start running barefoot even 5 miles a week. Don't listen to all his queer rhetoric, he is just prattling on because his son sucks and he doesn't want to think it is because his son just naturally sucks.

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FinishingKick wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

FinishingKick wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

Through_the_Pain wrote:never heard of McDougal but ill look him up

YOU SICKEN ME

THAT'S PATHETIC.

WOW...

It's pathetic that somebody doesn't study elite distance running? No, it's not!
It's pathetic that someone trolls a random running forum all day impersonating people who have actually made something of themselves.

And if you know all these elite distance runners so well, and "hang out" with them, then please tell me, what's your name?

WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT?

YOU DONT HAVE TO "STUDY" ELITE RUNNING TO KNOW WHO MCDOUGAL IS, CONSIDERING WHAT HES DONE..

THATS JUST SAD IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO HE IS.

AND I DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT, SO YOU SHOULD PROBABLY STOP BEFORE YOU SOUND LIKE EVEN MORE OF AN IDIOT THAN YOU DO NOW, JUS SAYIN.

AND UMM, U STOCKIN?

AND IM NOT FRAUDIN, ITS NOT REALLY THAT "HARD" TO MEET "ELITE" RUNNERS.

WE'LL WAIT AND SEE, I WANT TO WAIT TILL I HAVE ONE GOOD SEASON UNDER MY BELT AFTER ALL OF THIS TRAINING

So you don't even run in elite meets, yet somehow you meet elite runners? This is your worst impersonation yet.

...DID I EVER SAY THAT?

FIRST OF ALL, YOU DONT HAVE TO RUN IN ELITE MEETS (THOUGH I DONT THINK I SAID I DIDNT BUT WHATEVER WE CAN STOP ON THAT TOPIC)
SECOND OF ALL, IM TRAINING LIKE CRAZY IN HOPES OF MAKING THAT ****IN NCAA TEAM
THIRD OF ALL, AGAIN I DONT KNOW WHAT IMPERSONATING YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

HAVE A GOOD DAY

its highly doubtful you will make it.
sorry to tell u this.

DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SINCE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MY TRAINING AND HOW MUCH IM TRAINING RIGHT NOW

BUT WHATEVER, WE'LL SEE IN NOVEMBER

lol and you dont know nothing about my training and how much i work my @ss off everyday. so i dont wanna hear nothing bout me not makin it. and i will shut my mouth about u not makin it.

...I WOULD BET THAT RIGHT NOW I AM PROBABLY DOING MORE THAN DOUBLE THE MILEAGE THAT YOURE DOING RIGHT NOW

AND ITS A LOT, LOT HARDER TO BECOME "PRO" THAN TO RUN AT NCAA. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I HAVE A MUCH HIGHER CHANCE (CONSIDERING MY PRS ARE A LOT BETTER) I DONT THINK YOU REALIZE HOW HARD IT IS TO GO PRO OR HOW MUCH TALENT IT TAKES

JUS SAYIN.

and you keep talkin about these prs of mine. lets hear them. but u are probably my age and a male. wat a coincidence. so i dont have any exuseses right? lol
and i doubt u are doing double my mileage.
u are all talk. but u dont give us prs, how old, your gender. grade anything.

You did 32 miles this past week (according to the weekly thread). Anyone trying to get anywhere in college running (let alone NCAAs) would easily be doing at least 64 miles a week right now.

i dont deny my low mileage @ all. i just do better on mileage between 30-40 mpw. anything higher and my training just gets slower. cause 75% of that is hard too.

I was proving the fact that he is doing more than twice the miles you are.

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ProtestTheZero wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

BagoXC25 wrote:I read the whole thing, and I thought it was a good article. I really like all he had to say about Lydiard, because (even though I KNOW he is an amazing coach) he is the kind of coach that is "hidden under the carpet" in the running world.

I completely agree with barefoot running and strengthening the feet in general. In trampoline, foot strength is pretty much the key to stability and we worked our feet A LOT. I think that has been one of the main reasons why I don't get injured.

And I might try nasal breathing, because I have an awful breathing problem whenever I race or do workouts, and it scares me and the people I run with. Kind of sounds like I could die at any moment...but anyways I'll try it and see if it helps.

+1, I'm gonna start running barefoot.

This is why this article is fucking trolling. You are going to pull a muscle in your foot, get a stress fracture, or develop some other foot issue if you start running barefoot even 5 miles a week. Don't listen to all his queer rhetoric, he is just prattling on because his son sucks and he doesn't want to think it is because his son just naturally sucks.

And that's why you slowly ease into it, like everything else in running.

ProtestTheZero wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ProtestTheZero wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

BagoXC25 wrote:I read the whole thing, and I thought it was a good article. I really like all he had to say about Lydiard, because (even though I KNOW he is an amazing coach) he is the kind of coach that is "hidden under the carpet" in the running world.

I completely agree with barefoot running and strengthening the feet in general. In trampoline, foot strength is pretty much the key to stability and we worked our feet A LOT. I think that has been one of the main reasons why I don't get injured.

And I might try nasal breathing, because I have an awful breathing problem whenever I race or do workouts, and it scares me and the people I run with. Kind of sounds like I could die at any moment...but anyways I'll try it and see if it helps.

+1, I'm gonna start running barefoot.

This is why this article is fucking trolling. You are going to pull a muscle in your foot, get a stress fracture, or develop some other foot issue if you start running barefoot even 5 miles a week. Don't listen to all his queer rhetoric, he is just prattling on because his son sucks and he doesn't want to think it is because his son just naturally sucks.

And that's why you slowly ease into it, like everything else in running.

I would say the biggest problem with high school track is this. That all this random cross shit is perceived as being helpful.

You won't get ANY faster at running if you run barefoot. Your feet will get strained, and you will get injured. OR, you will be able to run barefoot, and then what? You get muscular feet. Whoopdie shit. That won't do bunk for your running economy, it will just make it so you can run barefoot if you want.

Don't take risks on shit like this. It won't help you.

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

Running With Scissors wrote:I tried running a 6 mile tempo today without breathing through my mouth. It didnt work.

Did you even read the article? He said you're going to have to slow down your paces a lot before you get used to it.

ProtestTheZero wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ProtestTheZero wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

BagoXC25 wrote:I read the whole thing, and I thought it was a good article. I really like all he had to say about Lydiard, because (even though I KNOW he is an amazing coach) he is the kind of coach that is "hidden under the carpet" in the running world.

I completely agree with barefoot running and strengthening the feet in general. In trampoline, foot strength is pretty much the key to stability and we worked our feet A LOT. I think that has been one of the main reasons why I don't get injured.

And I might try nasal breathing, because I have an awful breathing problem whenever I race or do workouts, and it scares me and the people I run with. Kind of sounds like I could die at any moment...but anyways I'll try it and see if it helps.

+1, I'm gonna start running barefoot.

This is why this article is fucking trolling. You are going to pull a muscle in your foot, get a stress fracture, or develop some other foot issue if you start running barefoot even 5 miles a week. Don't listen to all his queer rhetoric, he is just prattling on because his son sucks and he doesn't want to think it is because his son just naturally sucks.

And that's why you slowly ease into it, like everything else in running.

I would say the biggest problem with high school track is this. That all this random cross shit is perceived as being helpful.

You won't get ANY faster at running if you run barefoot. Your feet will get strained, and you will get injured. OR, you will be able to run barefoot, and then what? You get muscular feet. Whoopdie shit. That won't do bunk for your running economy, it will just make it so you can run barefoot if you want.

Don't take risks on shit like this. It won't help you.

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ProtestTheZero wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ProtestTheZero wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

BagoXC25 wrote:I read the whole thing, and I thought it was a good article. I really like all he had to say about Lydiard, because (even though I KNOW he is an amazing coach) he is the kind of coach that is "hidden under the carpet" in the running world.

I completely agree with barefoot running and strengthening the feet in general. In trampoline, foot strength is pretty much the key to stability and we worked our feet A LOT. I think that has been one of the main reasons why I don't get injured.

And I might try nasal breathing, because I have an awful breathing problem whenever I race or do workouts, and it scares me and the people I run with. Kind of sounds like I could die at any moment...but anyways I'll try it and see if it helps.

+1, I'm gonna start running barefoot.

This is why this article is fucking trolling. You are going to pull a muscle in your foot, get a stress fracture, or develop some other foot issue if you start running barefoot even 5 miles a week. Don't listen to all his queer rhetoric, he is just prattling on because his son sucks and he doesn't want to think it is because his son just naturally sucks.

And that's why you slowly ease into it, like everything else in running.

I would say the biggest problem with high school track is this. That all this random cross shit is perceived as being helpful.

You won't get ANY faster at running if you run barefoot. Your feet will get strained, and you will get injured. OR, you will be able to run barefoot, and then what? You get muscular feet. Whoopdie shit. That won't do bunk for your running economy, it will just make it so you can run barefoot if you want.

Don't take risks on shit like this. It won't help you.

First of all, this isn't cross training. This is still running.

Second of all, strong feet and ankles increase stride length and running economy like crazy.

Nobodies forcing you to do it, so don't.

BagoXC25 wrote:Heres my verdict. I ran 15 minutes barefoot today on grass and only breathed through my nose. My heart rate was higher than usual, but when I sprinted for 2 minutes during it, i was much calmer and much more relaxed. Breathing was harder, but my mind and body felt better. I also loved the feeling of barefoot running.

How about everyone at least tries some of this before they give their reasons for loving/hating it.

ProtestTheZero wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ProtestTheZero wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ProtestTheZero wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

BagoXC25 wrote:I read the whole thing, and I thought it was a good article. I really like all he had to say about Lydiard, because (even though I KNOW he is an amazing coach) he is the kind of coach that is "hidden under the carpet" in the running world.

I completely agree with barefoot running and strengthening the feet in general. In trampoline, foot strength is pretty much the key to stability and we worked our feet A LOT. I think that has been one of the main reasons why I don't get injured.

And I might try nasal breathing, because I have an awful breathing problem whenever I race or do workouts, and it scares me and the people I run with. Kind of sounds like I could die at any moment...but anyways I'll try it and see if it helps.

+1, I'm gonna start running barefoot.

This is why this article is fucking trolling. You are going to pull a muscle in your foot, get a stress fracture, or develop some other foot issue if you start running barefoot even 5 miles a week. Don't listen to all his queer rhetoric, he is just prattling on because his son sucks and he doesn't want to think it is because his son just naturally sucks.

And that's why you slowly ease into it, like everything else in running.

I would say the biggest problem with high school track is this. That all this random cross shit is perceived as being helpful.

You won't get ANY faster at running if you run barefoot. Your feet will get strained, and you will get injured. OR, you will be able to run barefoot, and then what? You get muscular feet. Whoopdie shit. That won't do bunk for your running economy, it will just make it so you can run barefoot if you want.

Don't take risks on shit like this. It won't help you.

First of all, this isn't cross training. This is still running.

Second of all, strong feet and ankles increase stride length and running economy like crazy.

Nobodies forcing you to do it, so don't.

First of all, THAT IS COMPLETELY IRRELEVANT.

Second of all, no, that isn't true, the guy who wrote the article didn't even try to claim that, he said this was a method of injury prevention.

And that is gay reasoning, this is a discussion forum, and you want to injure yourself. I have the right to call you stupid.

Barefoot running in effect teaches us to land lightly, and this is a form of efficiency found in Africans, but virtually non-existent in Americans from what I have seen. Americans crash their feet into the ground because their feet cannot see. They are blindfolded by the cushioning. Americans are oblivious to what is going on. I first noticed this at the NCAA Regional Cross-Country Final in Boston at Franklin Park two years ago. Iona's Kiplagat, an African, won the 10K in under 30 minutes. Like Luka and Lomong, he landed his feet like a feather. Likewise, he sprung up after each landing due to powerful muscular strength coming from his feet. When I watched the Americans, the difference was clear. Can you imagine how much energy is wasted when one crashes his foot into the ground?

futureNIKErunner wrote:

FinishingKick wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

FinishingKick wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

Through_the_Pain wrote:never heard of McDougal but ill look him up

YOU SICKEN ME

THAT'S PATHETIC.

WOW...

It's pathetic that somebody doesn't study elite distance running? No, it's not!
It's pathetic that someone trolls a random running forum all day impersonating people who have actually made something of themselves.

And if you know all these elite distance runners so well, and "hang out" with them, then please tell me, what's your name?

WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT?

YOU DONT HAVE TO "STUDY" ELITE RUNNING TO KNOW WHO MCDOUGAL IS, CONSIDERING WHAT HES DONE..

THATS JUST SAD IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO HE IS.

AND I DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT, SO YOU SHOULD PROBABLY STOP BEFORE YOU SOUND LIKE EVEN MORE OF AN IDIOT THAN YOU DO NOW, JUS SAYIN.

AND UMM, U STOCKIN?

AND IM NOT FRAUDIN, ITS NOT REALLY THAT "HARD" TO MEET "ELITE" RUNNERS.

WE'LL WAIT AND SEE, I WANT TO WAIT TILL I HAVE ONE GOOD SEASON UNDER MY BELT AFTER ALL OF THIS TRAINING

So you don't even run in elite meets, yet somehow you meet elite runners? This is your worst impersonation yet.

...DID I EVER SAY THAT?

FIRST OF ALL, YOU DONT HAVE TO RUN IN ELITE MEETS (THOUGH I DONT THINK I SAID I DIDNT BUT WHATEVER WE CAN STOP ON THAT TOPIC)
SECOND OF ALL, IM TRAINING LIKE CRAZY IN HOPES OF MAKING THAT ****IN NCAA TEAM
THIRD OF ALL, AGAIN I DONT KNOW WHAT IMPERSONATING YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

HAVE A GOOD DAY

its highly doubtful you will make it.
sorry to tell u this.

DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SINCE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MY TRAINING AND HOW MUCH IM TRAINING RIGHT NOW

BUT WHATEVER, WE'LL SEE IN NOVEMBER

lol and you dont know nothing about my training and how much i work my @ss off everyday. so i dont wanna hear nothing bout me not makin it. and i will shut my mouth about u not makin it.

...I WOULD BET THAT RIGHT NOW I AM PROBABLY DOING MORE THAN DOUBLE THE MILEAGE THAT YOURE DOING RIGHT NOW

AND ITS A LOT, LOT HARDER TO BECOME "PRO" THAN TO RUN AT NCAA. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I HAVE A MUCH HIGHER CHANCE (CONSIDERING MY PRS ARE A LOT BETTER) I DONT THINK YOU REALIZE HOW HARD IT IS TO GO PRO OR HOW MUCH TALENT IT TAKES

JUS SAYIN.

and you keep talkin about these prs of mine. lets hear them. but u are probably my age and a male. wat a coincidence. so i dont have any exuseses right? lol
and i doubt u are doing double my mileage.
u are all talk. but u dont give us prs, how old, your gender. grade anything.

You did 32 miles this past week (according to the weekly thread). Anyone trying to get anywhere in college running (let alone NCAAs) would easily be doing at least 64 miles a week right now.

i dont deny my low mileage @ all. i just do better on mileage between 30-40 mpw. anything higher and my training just gets slower. cause 75% of that is hard too.

I was proving the fact that he is doing more than twice the miles you are.

oh ic. so hes doing 60-80mph

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

FinishingKick wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

FinishingKick wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

Through_the_Pain wrote:never heard of McDougal but ill look him up

YOU SICKEN ME

THAT'S PATHETIC.

WOW...

It's pathetic that somebody doesn't study elite distance running? No, it's not!
It's pathetic that someone trolls a random running forum all day impersonating people who have actually made something of themselves.

And if you know all these elite distance runners so well, and "hang out" with them, then please tell me, what's your name?

WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT?

YOU DONT HAVE TO "STUDY" ELITE RUNNING TO KNOW WHO MCDOUGAL IS, CONSIDERING WHAT HES DONE..

THATS JUST SAD IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO HE IS.

AND I DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT, SO YOU SHOULD PROBABLY STOP BEFORE YOU SOUND LIKE EVEN MORE OF AN IDIOT THAN YOU DO NOW, JUS SAYIN.

AND UMM, U STOCKIN?

AND IM NOT FRAUDIN, ITS NOT REALLY THAT "HARD" TO MEET "ELITE" RUNNERS.

WE'LL WAIT AND SEE, I WANT TO WAIT TILL I HAVE ONE GOOD SEASON UNDER MY BELT AFTER ALL OF THIS TRAINING

So you don't even run in elite meets, yet somehow you meet elite runners? This is your worst impersonation yet.

...DID I EVER SAY THAT?

FIRST OF ALL, YOU DONT HAVE TO RUN IN ELITE MEETS (THOUGH I DONT THINK I SAID I DIDNT BUT WHATEVER WE CAN STOP ON THAT TOPIC)
SECOND OF ALL, IM TRAINING LIKE CRAZY IN HOPES OF MAKING THAT ****IN NCAA TEAM
THIRD OF ALL, AGAIN I DONT KNOW WHAT IMPERSONATING YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

HAVE A GOOD DAY

its highly doubtful you will make it.
sorry to tell u this.

DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SINCE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MY TRAINING AND HOW MUCH IM TRAINING RIGHT NOW

BUT WHATEVER, WE'LL SEE IN NOVEMBER

lol and you dont know nothing about my training and how much i work my @ss off everyday. so i dont wanna hear nothing bout me not makin it. and i will shut my mouth about u not makin it.

...I WOULD BET THAT RIGHT NOW I AM PROBABLY DOING MORE THAN DOUBLE THE MILEAGE THAT YOURE DOING RIGHT NOW

AND ITS A LOT, LOT HARDER TO BECOME "PRO" THAN TO RUN AT NCAA. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I HAVE A MUCH HIGHER CHANCE (CONSIDERING MY PRS ARE A LOT BETTER) I DONT THINK YOU REALIZE HOW HARD IT IS TO GO PRO OR HOW MUCH TALENT IT TAKES

JUS SAYIN.

and you keep talkin about these prs of mine. lets hear them. but u are probably my age and a male. wat a coincidence. so i dont have any exuseses right? lol
and i doubt u are doing double my mileage.
u are all talk. but u dont give us prs, how old, your gender. grade anything.

You did 32 miles this past week (according to the weekly thread). Anyone trying to get anywhere in college running (let alone NCAAs) would easily be doing at least 64 miles a week right now.

i dont deny my low mileage @ all. i just do better on mileage between 30-40 mpw. anything higher and my training just gets slower. cause 75% of that is hard too.

I was proving the fact that he is doing more than twice the miles you are.

oh ic. so hes doing 60-80mph

HAHA UHH NO

LOL I FIND IT FUNNY THAT YOU SAY "I HIGHLY DOUBT YOU ARE DOING DOUBLE MY MILEAGE" AND YOU ONLY RUN 30-40 MPW, LAST WEEK BEING 32..

I'M DOING A LOT MORE THAN TRIPLE YOUR MILEAGE LOL

AND TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND..

MY 5K PR IS SLOW BECAUSE I RAN IT OFF OF BEING SICK (COMING BACK FROM A SICKNESS) AND FELT HORRIBLE THE WHOLE RACE. I KNOW I CAN DROP IT DOWN A TON.

- GO TO A DIVISION 1 NCAA SCHOOL THAT HAS VERY, VERY GOOD SHOTS OF FINISHING TOP 10 (HECK, TOP 5 TOO) AT NCAA. REASON IM TRAINING LIKE CRAZY IS SO I CAN MAKE THE ****IN NCAA TEAM (TOP 7 ON THE TEAM) AND RUN IN THE MEET. IM GOING TO FIGURE OUT MY FITNESS AT A MEET WE HAVE VERY EARLY ON.. IN 1-2 MONTHS OR SO...

- LASTLY OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW MONTHS I MIGHT POST MORE STUFF BUT I DONT WANT TO ACT LIKE "OH, IM GOING TO MAKE TOP 7" BECAUSE WHO KNOWS WHAT COULD HAPPEN

BagoXC25 wrote:So we still don't know your PR's...There are high schoolers on here that are faster than you I bet.

so thats my excuse. and i really dont care if people have excuses. im actually for them

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

FinishingKick wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

FinishingKick wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

Through_the_Pain wrote:never heard of McDougal but ill look him up

YOU SICKEN ME

THAT'S PATHETIC.

WOW...

It's pathetic that somebody doesn't study elite distance running? No, it's not!
It's pathetic that someone trolls a random running forum all day impersonating people who have actually made something of themselves.

And if you know all these elite distance runners so well, and "hang out" with them, then please tell me, what's your name?

WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT?

YOU DONT HAVE TO "STUDY" ELITE RUNNING TO KNOW WHO MCDOUGAL IS, CONSIDERING WHAT HES DONE..

THATS JUST SAD IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO HE IS.

AND I DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT, SO YOU SHOULD PROBABLY STOP BEFORE YOU SOUND LIKE EVEN MORE OF AN IDIOT THAN YOU DO NOW, JUS SAYIN.

AND UMM, U STOCKIN?

AND IM NOT FRAUDIN, ITS NOT REALLY THAT "HARD" TO MEET "ELITE" RUNNERS.

WE'LL WAIT AND SEE, I WANT TO WAIT TILL I HAVE ONE GOOD SEASON UNDER MY BELT AFTER ALL OF THIS TRAINING

So you don't even run in elite meets, yet somehow you meet elite runners? This is your worst impersonation yet.

...DID I EVER SAY THAT?

FIRST OF ALL, YOU DONT HAVE TO RUN IN ELITE MEETS (THOUGH I DONT THINK I SAID I DIDNT BUT WHATEVER WE CAN STOP ON THAT TOPIC)
SECOND OF ALL, IM TRAINING LIKE CRAZY IN HOPES OF MAKING THAT ****IN NCAA TEAM
THIRD OF ALL, AGAIN I DONT KNOW WHAT IMPERSONATING YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

HAVE A GOOD DAY

its highly doubtful you will make it.
sorry to tell u this.

DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SINCE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MY TRAINING AND HOW MUCH IM TRAINING RIGHT NOW

BUT WHATEVER, WE'LL SEE IN NOVEMBER

lol and you dont know nothing about my training and how much i work my @ss off everyday. so i dont wanna hear nothing bout me not makin it. and i will shut my mouth about u not makin it.

...I WOULD BET THAT RIGHT NOW I AM PROBABLY DOING MORE THAN DOUBLE THE MILEAGE THAT YOURE DOING RIGHT NOW

AND ITS A LOT, LOT HARDER TO BECOME "PRO" THAN TO RUN AT NCAA. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I HAVE A MUCH HIGHER CHANCE (CONSIDERING MY PRS ARE A LOT BETTER) I DONT THINK YOU REALIZE HOW HARD IT IS TO GO PRO OR HOW MUCH TALENT IT TAKES

JUS SAYIN.

and you keep talkin about these prs of mine. lets hear them. but u are probably my age and a male. wat a coincidence. so i dont have any exuseses right? lol
and i doubt u are doing double my mileage.
u are all talk. but u dont give us prs, how old, your gender. grade anything.

You did 32 miles this past week (according to the weekly thread). Anyone trying to get anywhere in college running (let alone NCAAs) would easily be doing at least 64 miles a week right now.

i dont deny my low mileage @ all. i just do better on mileage between 30-40 mpw. anything higher and my training just gets slower. cause 75% of that is hard too.

I was proving the fact that he is doing more than twice the miles you are.

oh ic. so hes doing 60-80mph

HAHA UHH NO

LOL I FIND IT FUNNY THAT YOU SAY "I HIGHLY DOUBT YOU ARE DOING DOUBLE MY MILEAGE" AND YOU ONLY RUN 30-40 MPW, LAST WEEK BEING 32..

I'M DOING A LOT MORE THAN TRIPLE YOUR MILEAGE LOL

AND TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND..

MY 5K PR IS SLOW BECAUSE I RAN IT OFF OF BEING SICK (COMING BACK FROM A SICKNESS) AND FELT HORRIBLE THE WHOLE RACE. I KNOW I CAN DROP IT DOWN A TON.

- GO TO A DIVISION 1 NCAA SCHOOL THAT HAS VERY, VERY GOOD SHOTS OF FINISHING TOP 10 (HECK, TOP 5 TOO) AT NCAA. REASON IM TRAINING LIKE CRAZY IS SO I CAN MAKE THE ****IN NCAA TEAM (TOP 7 ON THE TEAM) AND RUN IN THE MEET. IM GOING TO FIGURE OUT MY FITNESS AT A MEET WE HAVE VERY EARLY ON.. IN 1-2 MONTHS OR SO...

- LASTLY OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW MONTHS I MIGHT POST MORE STUFF BUT I DONT WANT TO ACT LIKE "OH, IM GOING TO MAKE TOP 7" BECAUSE WHO KNOWS WHAT COULD HAPPEN

i highly doubt your are doing 90+ miles per week
uless your are like an elite senior or something.
and my 5k pr is slow cause i started out to fast. and i mean really to fast. the 2 mile split was 17 sec faster than my track pr. so thats my excuse. and i really dont care if people have excuses. im actually for them

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

FinishingKick wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

FinishingKick wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

futureNIKErunner wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ILOVEBRIE101 wrote:

Through_the_Pain wrote:never heard of McDougal but ill look him up

YOU SICKEN ME

THAT'S PATHETIC.

WOW...

It's pathetic that somebody doesn't study elite distance running? No, it's not!
It's pathetic that someone trolls a random running forum all day impersonating people who have actually made something of themselves.

And if you know all these elite distance runners so well, and "hang out" with them, then please tell me, what's your name?

WHAT ARE YOU EVEN TALKING ABOUT?

YOU DONT HAVE TO "STUDY" ELITE RUNNING TO KNOW WHO MCDOUGAL IS, CONSIDERING WHAT HES DONE..

THATS JUST SAD IF YOU DONT KNOW WHO HE IS.

AND I DONT KNOW WHAT YOURE TALKING ABOUT, SO YOU SHOULD PROBABLY STOP BEFORE YOU SOUND LIKE EVEN MORE OF AN IDIOT THAN YOU DO NOW, JUS SAYIN.

AND UMM, U STOCKIN?

AND IM NOT FRAUDIN, ITS NOT REALLY THAT "HARD" TO MEET "ELITE" RUNNERS.

WE'LL WAIT AND SEE, I WANT TO WAIT TILL I HAVE ONE GOOD SEASON UNDER MY BELT AFTER ALL OF THIS TRAINING

So you don't even run in elite meets, yet somehow you meet elite runners? This is your worst impersonation yet.

...DID I EVER SAY THAT?

FIRST OF ALL, YOU DONT HAVE TO RUN IN ELITE MEETS (THOUGH I DONT THINK I SAID I DIDNT BUT WHATEVER WE CAN STOP ON THAT TOPIC)
SECOND OF ALL, IM TRAINING LIKE CRAZY IN HOPES OF MAKING THAT ****IN NCAA TEAM
THIRD OF ALL, AGAIN I DONT KNOW WHAT IMPERSONATING YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT

HAVE A GOOD DAY

its highly doubtful you will make it.
sorry to tell u this.

DONT KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT SINCE YOU KNOW NOTHING ABOUT MY TRAINING AND HOW MUCH IM TRAINING RIGHT NOW

BUT WHATEVER, WE'LL SEE IN NOVEMBER

lol and you dont know nothing about my training and how much i work my @ss off everyday. so i dont wanna hear nothing bout me not makin it. and i will shut my mouth about u not makin it.

...I WOULD BET THAT RIGHT NOW I AM PROBABLY DOING MORE THAN DOUBLE THE MILEAGE THAT YOURE DOING RIGHT NOW

AND ITS A LOT, LOT HARDER TO BECOME "PRO" THAN TO RUN AT NCAA. ESPECIALLY BECAUSE I HAVE A MUCH HIGHER CHANCE (CONSIDERING MY PRS ARE A LOT BETTER) I DONT THINK YOU REALIZE HOW HARD IT IS TO GO PRO OR HOW MUCH TALENT IT TAKES

JUS SAYIN.

and you keep talkin about these prs of mine. lets hear them. but u are probably my age and a male. wat a coincidence. so i dont have any exuseses right? lol
and i doubt u are doing double my mileage.
u are all talk. but u dont give us prs, how old, your gender. grade anything.

You did 32 miles this past week (according to the weekly thread). Anyone trying to get anywhere in college running (let alone NCAAs) would easily be doing at least 64 miles a week right now.

i dont deny my low mileage @ all. i just do better on mileage between 30-40 mpw. anything higher and my training just gets slower. cause 75% of that is hard too.

I was proving the fact that he is doing more than twice the miles you are.

oh ic. so hes doing 60-80mph

HAHA UHH NO

LOL I FIND IT FUNNY THAT YOU SAY "I HIGHLY DOUBT YOU ARE DOING DOUBLE MY MILEAGE" AND YOU ONLY RUN 30-40 MPW, LAST WEEK BEING 32..

I'M DOING A LOT MORE THAN TRIPLE YOUR MILEAGE LOL

AND TO GIVE SOME BACKGROUND..

MY 5K PR IS SLOW BECAUSE I RAN IT OFF OF BEING SICK (COMING BACK FROM A SICKNESS) AND FELT HORRIBLE THE WHOLE RACE. I KNOW I CAN DROP IT DOWN A TON.

- GO TO A DIVISION 1 NCAA SCHOOL THAT HAS VERY, VERY GOOD SHOTS OF FINISHING TOP 10 (HECK, TOP 5 TOO) AT NCAA. REASON IM TRAINING LIKE CRAZY IS SO I CAN MAKE THE ****IN NCAA TEAM (TOP 7 ON THE TEAM) AND RUN IN THE MEET. IM GOING TO FIGURE OUT MY FITNESS AT A MEET WE HAVE VERY EARLY ON.. IN 1-2 MONTHS OR SO...

- LASTLY OVER THE COURSE OF THE NEXT FEW MONTHS I MIGHT POST MORE STUFF BUT I DONT WANT TO ACT LIKE "OH, IM GOING TO MAKE TOP 7" BECAUSE WHO KNOWS WHAT COULD HAPPEN

i highly doubt your are doing 90+ miles per week
uless your are like an elite senior or something.
and my 5k pr is slow cause i started out to fast. and i mean really to fast. the 2 mile split was 17 sec faster than my track pr. so thats my excuse. and i really dont care if people have excuses. im actually for them

AND YES.. UMMM 90 MPW ISNT MUCH. IVE BEEN QUITE A BIT OVER 100 FOR THE LAST 6-8 WEEKS.