I hate smoking.

we have that law in ohio too but some places dont follow it.. i really like that they have it though.

so people like miler, ptz and rws are pro-smoking (or at least dont see a problem with it) because it reduces stress? hmm well when im stressed ill go for a run or something. that doesnt cost me $10 a day. and it brings people happiness?? i guess so but only once theyre addicted i guess..

i have 1 grandparent still living and she is the only one who didnt smoke. 1 died from throat cancer, another from complications from emphyzema and overall health problems related to smoking, and another from heart and lung problems, which the doctors say were related to smoking.

im addicted to running lol.
jk but i think id have to agree with ND.

peoples choice to smoke is their choice. they should be able to do everything they want since its their life, however if they are affecting my life, i wont want that. no second-hand. sure smoke if you must, just not within 20 feet of others.

That's a good point, P2, people do have rights but the problem is that most people aren't that considerate when it comes to smoking around other people. If everyone could stay a good distance away, it wouldn't be so bothersome... but people don't do that!

P2 wrote:just not within 20 feet of others.

100+ feet please

ProtestTheZero wrote:back off you guys. If people want to smoke that is fine, it might be somewhat dangerous, but smoking can help people relax, and maybe it gives them something that they aren't getting elsewhere. I know when I go on my breaks I really wish I could light one up, but I choose not to, and I respect a persons right to choose to.

YOU LIBERALS SHOULD TRY TO BE MORE ACCEPTING OF PEOPLE'S DIFFERENCES.

wait a second isnt a liberal someone who tries to let people do what they want..in that case liberal?
EDIT:what i mean is liberals are basically just extreme open-minded people.

I'll agree, I dont think the goverment should tell people what to do. By now almost everyone knows that smoking pretty much takes years off you life, and if they still want to do it then they almost deserve it.. that sounded terrible but it kinda relates to the survival of the fittest. Get what I meeaann?

Pinthin wrote:I'll agree, I dont think the goverment should tell people what to do. By now almost everyone knows that smoking pretty much takes years off you life, and if they still want to do it then they almost deserve it.. that sounded terrible but it kinda relates to the survival of the fittest. Get what I meeaann?

yep..that should pretty much settle this topic.

smoking cigarrettes is disgustingg
cannabis is a-okay though

P2 wrote:

ProtestTheZero wrote:back off you guys. If people want to smoke that is fine, it might be somewhat dangerous, but smoking can help people relax, and maybe it gives them something that they aren't getting elsewhere. I know when I go on my breaks I really wish I could light one up, but I choose not to, and I respect a persons right to choose to.

YOU LIBERALS SHOULD TRY TO BE MORE ACCEPTING OF PEOPLE'S DIFFERENCES.

wait a second isnt a liberal someone who tries to let people do what they want..in that case liberal?
EDIT:what i mean is liberals are basically just extreme open-minded people.

he's being sarcastic.

xc_babe09 wrote:we have that law in ohio too but some places dont follow it.. i really like that they have it though.

yeah, its a lot better in some public places

xc_babe09 wrote:

ProtestTheZero wrote:back off you guys. If people want to smoke that is fine, it might be somewhat dangerous, but smoking can help people relax, and maybe it gives them something that they aren't getting elsewhere. I know when I go on my breaks I really wish I could light one up, but I choose not to, and I respect a persons right to choose to.

YOU LIBERALS SHOULD TRY TO BE MORE ACCEPTING OF PEOPLE'S DIFFERENCES.

on the argument of relaxing it actually doesnt.

Who told you that? Your mommy?

nicotine is a relaxant...its common knowledge really

SourWorms wrote:smoking cigarrettes is disgustingg
cannabis is a-okay though

were you kidding or no.. FYI i'm not judging you, just curious :-)

nope im completely serious actually
cigarrettes are just nasty all they do is give u cancer. if your gonna smoke, at least get hi

Cigars are where it's at.

kinda true, only pot kills brain cells. and I'm guessing its more $$

haha pot doesn't kill braincells

ignorance ftw

thats pure propaganda. past lung cancer from the smoke, weed has no long term effects

it has long term affects, I just looked it up to see if your wrong.. haha

you can look it up, I'm to lazy to post any

http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/

you didn't look very hard did you
i use it with some regularity and i am most definitely smarter than the majority of high school kids

SourWorms wrote:http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/

you didn't look very hard did you
i use it with some regularity and i am most definitely smarter than the majority of high school kids

for one, you cant just look at one website, that almost seems to be pro-marijuana (which I dont really care if they legalize it or not) and your still wrong. Most of the affects arent major, but still do some damage mostly mental

http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/pot/f/mjp_faq14.htm
http://www.vsu.edu/pages/940.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_issues_and_effects_of_cannabis#Long-term_effects

Those are the websites that have the easiest articles to read (aka not really long and boring)

Pinthin wrote:

SourWorms wrote:http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/

you didn't look very hard did you
i use it with some regularity and i am most definitely smarter than the majority of high school kids

for one, you cant just look at one website, that almost seems to be pro-marijuana (which I dont really care if they legalize it or not) and your still wrong. Most of the affects arent major, but still do some damage mostly mental

http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/pot/f/mjp_faq14.htm
http://www.vsu.edu/pages/940.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_issues_and_effects_of_cannabis#Long-term_effects

Those are the websites that have the easiest articles to read (aka not really long and boring)

well i quoted a legit site with sources sited
you quoted wikipedia, about.com, and a link that no longer exists

secondly, they don't do any mental damage. please tell me any long term effects that you can document

p.s. you said the "affects" aren't major, its actually effects

weird i smoke pot but i still have a larger brain capacity than you

and edit: your about.com source actually said that there is no scientific evidence to suggest that marijuana affects the brain in a long-term, adverse manner. and why quote wikipedia? thats completely bogus most of the time

SourWorms wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

SourWorms wrote:http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/

you didn't look very hard did you
i use it with some regularity and i am most definitely smarter than the majority of high school kids

for one, you cant just look at one website, that almost seems to be pro-marijuana (which I dont really care if they legalize it or not) and your still wrong. Most of the affects arent major, but still do some damage mostly mental

http://alcoholism.about.com/cs/pot/f/mjp_faq14.htm
http://www.vsu.edu/pages/940.asp
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Health_issues_and_effects_of_cannabis#Long-term_effects

Those are the websites that have the easiest articles to read (aka not really long and boring)

well i quoted a legit site with sources sited
you quoted wikipedia, about.com, and a link that no longer exists

secondly, they don't do any mental damage. please tell me any long term effects that you can document

p.s. you said the "affects" aren't major, its actually effects

weird i smoke pot but i still have a larger brain capacity than you

and edit: your about.com source actually said that there is no scientific evidence to suggest that marijuana affects the brain in a long-term, adverse manner. and why quote wikipedia? thats completely bogus most of the time

I only took those websites because the other ones that I presume you would find more reliable, were too long and made the same point as the ones I gave you (some of the links must not have worked) I'm very aware of wiki’ mistakes, that’s why I don’t use it for my school work (which honestly is alot more important then this) but usually for the bigger subjects its accurate .Its true that it damages your lungs, lowers sperm count and can EFFECT you mentally, its easy to find on the internet if your not blind. Congrats on fixing my grammar error too, you were right, you are brilliant!! ps.. Mentally refers to anxiety and other fun things like that, NOT your brain.

OH and have fun trying to make more little sourworms when your sperm count is practically diminished

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2000/03/000331090541.htm IS that more legit for you? sorry I would find more examples but I dont feel like wasting anymore time on this thread.

mhmm Im done now. >=/

granted, it does lower sperm count temporarily. but if you read on it is a neglegible amount and does not affect reproduction.

and once again you used effect wrong. in this case it would AFFECT you mentally. effect is a noun, affect is a verb. come on now, this is basic grammar we are dealing with.
or has all of my THC use lowered my ability to reason? because i seem to be a great deal smarter than you, but that is beside the point.

and a quote from your article that you citied:

"Although the study did not show any harmful effects, 'these findings don¹t give marijuana a clean bill of health,' Block said"

i applaud you for such a valient effort in arguing your case, but science does not lie unfortunately. i don't blame you for leaving this argument now since you are obviously so ill-equipped