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    Post by *sg* Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:53 pm

    So, does anyone have any input on what is a good length for the long run during 5k base training? Because I was considering making mine longer, but I'm not sure. Right now I'm doing 10 miles followed by a rest/xt day... I'm also doing 48 miles this week and next week, and then I'm hopefully bumping it up to 50. My problem is that my easy runs are getting pretty long, even though I'm doubling on 2 days a week. sooo, I was considering making my long run longer to take a few miles off my easy runs... but I'm not sure if that's a good idea?? I was thinking probably not longer than 13... but what do you people think?
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    Post by runner_dude Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:55 pm

    10-12 miles is more than enough for 5ks. How long are your easy runs getting?
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    Post by T B K Wed Jul 16, 2008 10:55 pm

    I am doing 10 mile runs now, sometimes 11. I guess you can bump it up to 13 though.
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    Post by *sg* Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:02 pm

    runner_dude wrote:10-12 miles is more than enough for 5ks. How long are your easy runs getting?

    Today it was 7... I'm ok with that... but usually during XC season we do around 6... but I really like my long run... so I guess I kind of just wanted to make it longer sporty 2 ...and it seems like it should be a lot longer than my easy runs...
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    Post by runner_dude Wed Jul 16, 2008 11:04 pm

    It shouldn't be waay waay longer than your easy runs, but it should be 25-30% of your weekly mileage. Assuming you do 50 mpw, so it could be 12.5-15 miles, and your easy runs should each be 7-7.5 miles (assuming equal mileage a day, and six days per week running.)
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    Post by hxc Thu Jul 17, 2008 1:09 am

    As long as it's not like a major jump in mileage or something, the more the better. I'd stop around 15 miles though. And don't take too much mileage off your easy runs.
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    Post by BagoXC25 Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:04 am

    Our coach always gave us the 1:20 rule for long runs. AKA he didn't want us to go any longer than that. I'm assuming though that your current long runs are about an hour and a half, so I don't really know what to tell you except that you might be over doing it there.
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    Post by sub5trackgrl Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:53 am

    My long runs are about 90 to 100 minutes, usually that gets me 13 to 15 miles. a good plan for a long run is how far you can get in 90 minutes at a strong pace (your long run should not feel too easy).
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    Post by mae2937 Thu Jul 17, 2008 10:56 am

    4:50trackgrl wrote:My long runs are about 90 to 100 minutes, usually that gets me 13 to 15 miles. a good plan for a long run is how far you can get in 90 minutes at a strong pace (your long run should not feel too easy).


    i agree your long runs should be not easy really
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    Post by Running With Scissors Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:03 pm

    My long run is 6 miles. My tempo is 4-6 miles.

    And somehow I keep improving.
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    Post by CT Track Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:25 pm

    Depends on what mileage/time distance you're already ate. Go for 20-25% of your mileage/time if you're running 6 days a week about 30% if you're on 5 days a week. More or less just make it a little more than your regular runs. Going too long will just hurt you if you can't recover from it quick.
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    Post by Just Because Thu Jul 17, 2008 2:41 pm

    *sg* wrote:So, does anyone have any input on what is a good length for the long run during 5k base training? Because I was considering making mine longer, but I'm not sure. Right now I'm doing 10 miles followed by a rest/xt day... I'm also doing 48 miles this week and next week, and then I'm hopefully bumping it up to 50. My problem is that my easy runs are getting pretty long, even though I'm doubling on 2 days a week. sooo, I was considering making my long run longer to take a few miles off my easy runs... but I'm not sure if that's a good idea?? I was thinking probably not longer than 13... but what do you people think?

    My easy runs are about 55-60mins and my long run is 75-80mins.
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    Post by ILOVEBRIE101 Thu Jul 17, 2008 4:44 pm

    PAST MONTH IVE BEEN DOING LONG RUNS OF ABOUT 16-18 MILES
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    Post by Pinthin Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:05 pm

    Running With Scissors wrote:My long run is 6 miles. My tempo is 4-6 miles.

    And somehow I keep improving.

    same, my "long" runs aren't very long 6miles tops. My new coach is making us change that though [yaay]

    But I like going by time instead of miles.
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    Post by eternally_running Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:07 pm

    Pinthin wrote:
    Running With Scissors wrote:My long run is 6 miles. My tempo is 4-6 miles.

    And somehow I keep improving.

    same, my "long" runs aren't very long 6miles tops. My new coach is making us change that though [yaay]

    But I like going by time instead of miles.

    same here. my long runs are 6-7 miles
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    Post by hxc Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:26 pm

    eternally_running wrote:
    Pinthin wrote:
    Running With Scissors wrote:My long run is 6 miles. My tempo is 4-6 miles.

    And somehow I keep improving.

    same, my "long" runs aren't very long 6miles tops. My new coach is making us change that though [yaay]

    But I like going by time instead of miles.

    same here. my long runs are 6-7 miles

    If you run that at 8 minute pace that's not even an hour, so you barely get any of the benefits of the long run.
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    Post by Running With Scissors Thu Jul 17, 2008 5:43 pm

    HXC_Runner2012 wrote:
    eternally_running wrote:
    Pinthin wrote:
    Running With Scissors wrote:My long run is 6 miles. My tempo is 4-6 miles.

    And somehow I keep improving.

    same, my "long" runs aren't very long 6miles tops. My new coach is making us change that though [yaay]

    But I like going by time instead of miles.

    same here. my long runs are 6-7 miles

    If you run that at 8 minute pace that's not even an hour, so you barely get any of the benefits of the long run.

    my longest run since xc was 40 minutes and since xc I've been breaking prs
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    Post by runnin93 Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:33 pm

    Running With Scissors wrote:
    HXC_Runner2012 wrote:
    eternally_running wrote:
    Pinthin wrote:
    Running With Scissors wrote:My long run is 6 miles. My tempo is 4-6 miles.

    And somehow I keep improving.

    same, my "long" runs aren't very long 6miles tops. My new coach is making us change that though [yaay]

    But I like going by time instead of miles.

    same here. my long runs are 6-7 miles

    If you run that at 8 minute pace that's not even an hour, so you barely get any of the benefits of the long run.

    my longest run since xc was 40 minutes and since xc I've been breaking prs

    Maybe you could have breaken your prs even more if u ran just 1 or 2 more miles on the long run Smile
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    Post by hxc Thu Jul 17, 2008 6:58 pm

    Running With Scissors wrote:
    HXC_Runner2012 wrote:
    eternally_running wrote:
    Pinthin wrote:
    Running With Scissors wrote:My long run is 6 miles. My tempo is 4-6 miles.

    And somehow I keep improving.

    same, my "long" runs aren't very long 6miles tops. My new coach is making us change that though [yaay]

    But I like going by time instead of miles.

    same here. my long runs are 6-7 miles

    If you run that at 8 minute pace that's not even an hour, so you barely get any of the benefits of the long run.

    my longest run since xc was 40 minutes and since xc I've been breaking prs

    You would have improved more if you'd gone longer than an hour a couple times.
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    Post by futureNIKErunner Thu Jul 24, 2008 11:02 am

    been doing about 10 miles
    got a 16miler planned this weekend though, just to do it.
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    Post by CT Track Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:32 pm

    Just because they don't do longer long runs doesn't mean the improvement doesn't show. General fitness is a heavy factor in your ability to run faster. Their long runs are at about 6-7 miles, or around 40-50 minutes. It only means their weekly mileage isn't high right now. You can not run a weekly mileage of 25 and expect to do long runs of 10 miles.
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    Post by amherst_xc Thu Jul 24, 2008 1:45 pm

    at LEAST 8 mile for me..

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