Obesity

i dont have a choice we dont have healthy food at my house and we always go out. its not like i buy my own food now.

xc_babe09 wrote:i dont have a choice we dont have healthy food at my house and we always go out. its not like i buy my own food now.

You do have a choice. Go out an buy healthy foods and don't subject yourself to getting fat.

once i get a job ill buy more healthy foods we dont have the money to buy more food.

ATribeCalledGreg wrote:I almost died last year while sitting in one of my classes. The teacher is a very heavy woman and I was freezing. I asked her if I could go over to the thermostat and turn up the heat and she yelled at me saying it was already hot in there.

A friend of mine who felt my pain looked over and said, "Well we all don't have 7 layers of fat keeping us warm."

He was written up, but it was worth it.

There's one huge teacher at our middle school, and one day she started flipping out. She was screaming at one kid and another kid yelled: "Holy shit, Moby Dicks going crazy! Man the harpoons!!"

The teacher picked up a desk and threatened to clobber him with it. He got suspended for a week, she got suspended for a month.


Another story-

On a class trip to DC, one of the chaperons was HUGE. On the bus on the way there I could hear her talking about how she was on a huge epic diet and how she was gonna lose tons of weight.
The next day at breakfast in the hotel she had like 5 donuts 4 muffins a bagel and some 4% chocolate milk. And she's a nurse for crying out loud.

xc_babe09 wrote:once i get a job ill buy more healthy foods we dont have the money to buy more food.

What do you mean healthy food? What's cheaper than fruit, rice, lean meat and water?

xc_babe09 wrote:we mostly eat fastfood but i dislike doing it all the time cuz i know its so bad for me. im more health conscious than my parents just because im athletic and i know that what i put in my body needs to be good for me but they dont care. we do get v8 and i usually get cliff bars cuz they are mostly organic. i cant wait to buy my own food so i can get healthier stuff.

Are you telling me you have no healthy food in your house? I guarantee you have a lot more than you think.

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

xc_babe09 wrote:we mostly eat fastfood but i dislike doing it all the time cuz i know its so bad for me. im more health conscious than my parents just because im athletic and i know that what i put in my body needs to be good for me but they dont care. we do get v8 and i usually get cliff bars cuz they are mostly organic. i cant wait to buy my own food so i can get healthier stuff.

Are you telling me you have no healthy food in your house? I guarantee you have a lot more than you think.

you would say that but its not true. trust me.

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

ATribeCalledGreg wrote:I almost died last year while sitting in one of my classes. The teacher is a very heavy woman and I was freezing. I asked her if I could go over to the thermostat and turn up the heat and she yelled at me saying it was already hot in there.

A friend of mine who felt my pain looked over and said, "Well we all don't have 7 layers of fat keeping us warm."

He was written up, but it was worth it.

There's one huge teacher at our middle school, and one day she started flipping out. She was screaming at one kid and another kid yelled: "Holy shit, Moby Dicks going crazy! Man the harpoons!!"

I don't have a problem with fat people because it seems everyone is fat nowadays. I just don't think we should have to pay for their operations when they get sick from over-eating.

xc_babe09 wrote:

HXC_Runner2012 wrote:

xc_babe09 wrote:we mostly eat fastfood but i dislike doing it all the time cuz i know its so bad for me. im more health conscious than my parents just because im athletic and i know that what i put in my body needs to be good for me but they dont care. we do get v8 and i usually get cliff bars cuz they are mostly organic. i cant wait to buy my own food so i can get healthier stuff.

Are you telling me you have no healthy food in your house? I guarantee you have a lot more than you think.

you would say that but its not true. trust me.

Healthy food isn't always "health food". Whole grain bread? Whole grain rice? As long as it doesn't say "enriched", it's usually reasonably healthy. For the past week I've had whole grain rice and tea for lunch. I've lost 3 pounds, I feel better, and my running has improved.

I love fat people.

More cushion for the pushin', that is what I always say.

thelagwagon wrote:Let the fat people be fat. People really shouldn't need to be told that it's unhealthy to be fat, but I agree with greg that society is becoming to accomodating towards them.

What's criminal is that in NZ we have universal healthcare, so you have to pay 39% income tax and 12.5% sales tax so that these fat asses can get operations which are thier own dam fault. Nothing pisses me off more. Same with smokers, we have to pay billions a year to cure people of cancer who asked for it. Hold onto private healthcare while you can!

+1. Except we have up to 47% income tax and 13% sales tax.

That said, I don't think private health care is the answer. What we need is something along the lines of a fat tax. However much you weight over a certain BMI, you have to pay more (with exceptions for lean mass, as noted by Body Fat Percentage.

runner_dude wrote:

thelagwagon wrote:Let the fat people be fat. People really shouldn't need to be told that it's unhealthy to be fat, but I agree with greg that society is becoming to accomodating towards them.

What's criminal is that in NZ we have universal healthcare, so you have to pay 39% income tax and 12.5% sales tax so that these fat asses can get operations which are thier own dam fault. Nothing pisses me off more. Same with smokers, we have to pay billions a year to cure people of cancer who asked for it. Hold onto private healthcare while you can!

+1. Except we have up to 47% income tax and 13% sales tax.

That said, I don't think private health care is the answer. What we need is something along the lines of a fat tax. However much you weight over a certain BMI, you have to pay more (with exceptions for lean mass, as noted by Body Fat Percentage.

What about druggies and daredevils?

FK wrote:

runner_dude wrote:

thelagwagon wrote:Let the fat people be fat. People really shouldn't need to be told that it's unhealthy to be fat, but I agree with greg that society is becoming to accomodating towards them.

What's criminal is that in NZ we have universal healthcare, so you have to pay 39% income tax and 12.5% sales tax so that these fat asses can get operations which are thier own dam fault. Nothing pisses me off more. Same with smokers, we have to pay billions a year to cure people of cancer who asked for it. Hold onto private healthcare while you can!

+1. Except we have up to 47% income tax and 13% sales tax.

That said, I don't think private health care is the answer. What we need is something along the lines of a fat tax. However much you weight over a certain BMI, you have to pay more (with exceptions for lean mass, as noted by Body Fat Percentage.

What about druggies and daredevils?

Druggies are slightly different, addiction to drugs is stronger than food (most of the time). Half the time the daredevils kill themselves in the process, and fixing a broken arm is a lot cheaper then heart disease + cancer + arthritis + diabedes (sp?)

I don't think that my parents qualify as obese yet, but they're definately overweight. what bugs me is that they don't seem to care. They keep making brownies and cookies and junkfood and eating it. It's one thing to be fat... it's another thing to be fat and still eat a ton of junkfood.

And I'm not really fat, but I love food and lack self control so I get really ticked off when they keep making brownies and buying ice cream and being like "oh, want some more food!?!? Another brownie? Have more ice cream... I know you want it!!" and I'm like, are you trying to screw me over??!? I could resist it if they didn't wave it under my nose. The problem is that they don't care anymore. They've already let themselves go. Sometimes my mom talks about losing weight, but then she goes and makes cookie dough or something stupid and I'm like if you wanted to lose weight, WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT??!?!? if you wantto be fat, fine with me, just don't bring me down too!

runner_dude wrote:

thelagwagon wrote:Let the fat people be fat. People really shouldn't need to be told that it's unhealthy to be fat, but I agree with greg that society is becoming to accomodating towards them.

What's criminal is that in NZ we have universal healthcare, so you have to pay 39% income tax and 12.5% sales tax so that these fat asses can get operations which are thier own dam fault. Nothing pisses me off more. Same with smokers, we have to pay billions a year to cure people of cancer who asked for it. Hold onto private healthcare while you can!

+1. Except we have up to 47% income tax and 13% sales tax.

That said, I don't think private health care is the answer. What we need is something along the lines of a fat tax. However much you weight over a certain BMI, you have to pay more (with exceptions for lean mass, as noted by Body Fat Percentage.

Health insurance is more expensive for obese people, so they are already paying the toll.

For anyone that has seen "WALL-E", I believe with the way our society is turning out, the lifestyle of humans in "WALL-E" is becoming more and more accurate.

runner_dude wrote:

thelagwagon wrote:Let the fat people be fat. People really shouldn't need to be told that it's unhealthy to be fat, but I agree with greg that society is becoming to accomodating towards them.

What's criminal is that in NZ we have universal healthcare, so you have to pay 39% income tax and 12.5% sales tax so that these fat asses can get operations which are thier own dam fault. Nothing pisses me off more. Same with smokers, we have to pay billions a year to cure people of cancer who asked for it. Hold onto private healthcare while you can!

+1. Except we have up to 47% income tax and 13% sales tax.

That said, I don't think private health care is the answer. What we need is something along the lines of a fat tax. However much you weight over a certain BMI, you have to pay more (with exceptions for lean mass, as noted by Body Fat Percentage.

Hmm, I don't think that's fair. Forcing people to pay more tax just because they are fat isn't fair, people should be free to be fat without being FORCED (by tax) to pay for it. Let them make thier own decisions, they will realize that if they want health insurance, they will have to pay higher premiums, which is a lot more fair then forcing them to pay a fat tax.

And holy moly, 47%, where do you live?!

thelagwagon wrote:

runner_dude wrote:

thelagwagon wrote:Let the fat people be fat. People really shouldn't need to be told that it's unhealthy to be fat, but I agree with greg that society is becoming to accomodating towards them.

What's criminal is that in NZ we have universal healthcare, so you have to pay 39% income tax and 12.5% sales tax so that these fat asses can get operations which are thier own dam fault. Nothing pisses me off more. Same with smokers, we have to pay billions a year to cure people of cancer who asked for it. Hold onto private healthcare while you can!

+1. Except we have up to 47% income tax and 13% sales tax.

That said, I don't think private health care is the answer. What we need is something along the lines of a fat tax. However much you weight over a certain BMI, you have to pay more (with exceptions for lean mass, as noted by Body Fat Percentage.

Hmm, I don't think that's fair. Forcing people to pay more tax just because they are fat isn't fair, people should be free to be fat without being FORCED (by tax) to pay for it. Let them make thier own decisions, they will realize that if they want health insurance, they will have to pay higher premiums, which is a lot more fair then forcing them to pay a fat tax.

And holy moly, 47%, where do you live?!

I live in Canada, that's the highest tax bracket, you only pay 47% on your earnings over roughly $100k.

I fully believe in the public heath care system. For Profit healthcare has too many problems, that I don't want my country to go that way (not that it would anyway). But for example with smoking, cigarettes are taxed almost ad absurdum, but most of that tax goes to the healthcare system to pay for the costs of the smoker's heathcare needs. Obesidy is the same way, but it's harder to put a tax on one thing to pay for the costs.

runner_dude wrote:I fully believe in the public heath care system. For Profit healthcare has too many problems, that I don't want my country to go that way (not that it would anyway). But for example with smoking, cigarettes are taxed almost ad absurdum, but most of that tax goes to the healthcare system to pay for the costs of the smoker's heathcare needs. Obesidy is the same way, but it's harder to put a tax on one thing to pay for the costs.

I don't, it punishes people for being healthy (high tax and huge waiting lists) and rewards people for being fatasses. I don't smoke ciggarettes, and I'm not overweight. But with public health system, I (aka my parents ) have to pay for people who smoke ciggarettes and are severely overweight. It's unavoidable with public health. If health was fully privitized, then people would only have to be responsible for themselves. People who live a healthy lifestyle would have more cash. Also, if people realized they have to pay a lot more money in health insurance for smoking and being obese, that would be extra motivation for them to quit smoking/do exercise. Everyone wins except the people who don't deserve to.

yeah, i hate when fat people try to make other people fat, just cause you are that is selfish to try to get others fat too.

I don't think the nation needs as much a "fat tax" persay, as a tax on unhealthy foods. If the government actually proposed a fat tax, the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance (yes that actually is an organization) would have a cow (because it discriminates against people with "slow metabolisms"), and it never would work.

However, if a tax was placed on high trans fat and high calorie foods, much like the smoking tax, this would help to fund the healthcare these people require, and would provide a handy incentive for people to not eat bad food. All in all, a win-win situation.

that would be sweet if we had a big tax on fatty food.