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    Post by Phuckduck Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:07 pm

    So you have not sinned?
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:09 pm

    SourWorms wrote:how am i not a good christian by the definition. i live a far better life than those who are devout believers in jesus
    you have seen legalists. people who think they can get to heaven by doing better things than other people. all you have to do is believe, follow his mission(matthew 25), and you will WANT to do good acts, because you want to spread the word.
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:10 pm

    SourWorms wrote:So you have not sinned?
    i have sinned. maybe even more than you.

    but i've been redeemed by his blood, i don't carry the weight of my sin on my shoulders, He did that for me.
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:11 pm

    SourWorms wrote:how am i not a good christian by the definition. i live a far better life than those who are devout believers in jesus
    maybe you do. but if you don't do them in His name, none of it matters.
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    Post by T B K Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:12 pm

    SourWorms wrote:So you have not sinned?

    You're an agnostic?
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:13 pm

    BA_Sadie. wrote:heres what i think about evolution i think that god made the big bang happen so god did start it all after all in genesis it says he did but it doesn't say exactly..and the big bang still had to have something to start it and we have evolved over time that can't even be debated.
    that made no sense. Genesis does not say that the Big Bang happened, even atheists will tell you that.
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    Post by T B K Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:15 pm

    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    BA_Sadie. wrote:heres what i think about evolution i think that god made the big bang happen so god did start it all after all in genesis it says he did but it doesn't say exactly..and the big bang still had to have something to start it and we have evolved over time that can't even be debated.
    that made no sense. Genesis does not say that the Big Bang happened, even atheists will tell you that.

    As I am one, I'll tell you I don't fully believe it.

    I do believe how ever there is/are some spiritual dieties out there.
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    Post by alex-likes-running Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:18 pm

    so are you agnostic then?
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    Post by T B K Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:19 pm

    Yes sir.

    I do believe in higher spritual planes and that stuff.
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:20 pm

    The Bee's Knees wrote:
    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    BA_Sadie. wrote:heres what i think about evolution i think that god made the big bang happen so god did start it all after all in genesis it says he did but it doesn't say exactly..and the big bang still had to have something to start it and we have evolved over time that can't even be debated.
    that made no sense. Genesis does not say that the Big Bang happened, even atheists will tell you that.

    As I am one, I'll tell you I don't fully believe it.

    I do believe how ever there is/are some spiritual dieties out there.
    could you explain that last thing you said?
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    Post by T B K Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:23 pm

    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    The Bee's Knees wrote:
    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    BA_Sadie. wrote:heres what i think about evolution i think that god made the big bang happen so god did start it all after all in genesis it says he did but it doesn't say exactly..and the big bang still had to have something to start it and we have evolved over time that can't even be debated.
    that made no sense. Genesis does not say that the Big Bang happened, even atheists will tell you that.

    As I am one, I'll tell you I don't fully believe it.

    I do believe how ever there is/are some spiritual dieties out there.
    could you explain that last thing you said?

    Maybe that there is some type of "higher force" not nessecarily God but...eh, it's hard to explain.
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:30 pm

    The Bee's Knees wrote:
    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    The Bee's Knees wrote:
    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    BA_Sadie. wrote:heres what i think about evolution i think that god made the big bang happen so god did start it all after all in genesis it says he did but it doesn't say exactly..and the big bang still had to have something to start it and we have evolved over time that can't even be debated.
    that made no sense. Genesis does not say that the Big Bang happened, even atheists will tell you that.

    As I am one, I'll tell you I don't fully believe it.

    I do believe how ever there is/are some spiritual dieties out there.
    could you explain that last thing you said?

    Maybe that there is some type of "higher force" not nessecarily God but...eh, it's hard to explain.
    Rolling Eyes ok.
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    Post by BA_Sadie. Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:33 pm

    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    BA_Sadie. wrote:heres what i think about evolution i think that god made the big bang happen so god did start it all after all in genesis it says he did but it doesn't say exactly..and the big bang still had to have something to start it and we have evolved over time that can't even be debated.
    that made no sense. Genesis does not say that the Big Bang happened, even atheists will tell you that.

    duh i know that lol. i mean it doesn't say how god created the world it just says he did it...like it doesn't say what he did maybe he made the big bang happen and that started everything off because the big bang still had to have something to make it start. get it? lol.
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:37 pm

    BA_Sadie. wrote:
    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    BA_Sadie. wrote:heres what i think about evolution i think that god made the big bang happen so god did start it all after all in genesis it says he did but it doesn't say exactly..and the big bang still had to have something to start it and we have evolved over time that can't even be debated.
    that made no sense. Genesis does not say that the Big Bang happened, even atheists will tell you that.

    duh i know that lol. i mean it doesn't say how god created the world it just says he did it...like it doesn't say what he did maybe he made the big bang happen and that started everything off because the big bang still had to have something to make it start. get it? lol.
    eh. kinda.
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    Post by BA_Sadie. Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:38 pm

    i don't know how to explain it any better. Im not sure that i completely think that its just an idea. I know that lots of scientists that research the big bang actually find god through it because something higher still had to start it.
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:40 pm

    yea, i guess i didn't know that so many christians don't take the Bible word for word.....
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    Post by BA_Sadie. Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:42 pm

    it says god created the world it just doesn't say how and i think that might be how..im not changing anything the bible says. But, i don't necessarily take it literally i think that yeahh most of it is true but it was a long time ago and things change like there are rules in the bible that we obviously don't follow today because it would be complete nonsense to...and god didn't write it his prophets did and how can we be completely sure everything is word for word..idk i do think most of it is true though.
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:52 pm

    BA_Sadie. wrote:it says god created the world it just doesn't say how and i think that might be how..im not changing anything the bible says. But, i don't necessarily take it literally i think that yeahh most of it is true but it was a long time ago and things change like there are rules in the bible that we obviously don't follow today because it would be complete nonsense to...and god didn't write it his prophets did and how can we be completely sure everything is word for word..idk i do think most of it is true though.
    in the Bible, it says the scriptures are God-breathed. God effected everyone who wrote the Bible. he is a God that hates lies, he would not let lies get mixed in with the Word. and you can tell the rules that are obviously for the old cultures(ex. most of dueteronomy) apart from the ones everone has to follow(ex. 10 commandments).
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    Post by BA_Sadie. Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:56 pm

    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    BA_Sadie. wrote:it says god created the world it just doesn't say how and i think that might be how..im not changing anything the bible says. But, i don't necessarily take it literally i think that yeahh most of it is true but it was a long time ago and things change like there are rules in the bible that we obviously don't follow today because it would be complete nonsense to...and god didn't write it his prophets did and how can we be completely sure everything is word for word..idk i do think most of it is true though.
    in the Bible, it says the scriptures are God-breathed. God effected everyone who wrote the Bible. he is a God that hates lies, he would not let lies get mixed in with the Word. and you can tell the rules that are obviously for the old cultures(ex. most of dueteronomy) apart from the ones everone has to follow(ex. 10 commandments).

    your right i do take most of it for real but the little details i don't always think are still true today...but it doesn't really matter though as long as i believe what i know to be true. like jesus died for our sins and that god is really there and the ten commandments ect.
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Mon Jul 07, 2008 8:59 pm

    BA_Sadie. wrote:
    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    BA_Sadie. wrote:it says god created the world it just doesn't say how and i think that might be how..im not changing anything the bible says. But, i don't necessarily take it literally i think that yeahh most of it is true but it was a long time ago and things change like there are rules in the bible that we obviously don't follow today because it would be complete nonsense to...and god didn't write it his prophets did and how can we be completely sure everything is word for word..idk i do think most of it is true though.
    in the Bible, it says the scriptures are God-breathed. God effected everyone who wrote the Bible. he is a God that hates lies, he would not let lies get mixed in with the Word. and you can tell the rules that are obviously for the old cultures(ex. most of dueteronomy) apart from the ones everone has to follow(ex. 10 commandments).

    your right i do take most of it for real but the little details i don't always think are still true today...but it doesn't really matter though as long as i believe what i know to be true. like jesus died for our sins and that god is really there and the ten commandments ect.
    yea. sounds like we're almost the only ones here that completely believe that. Sad
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    Post by BA_Sadie. Mon Jul 07, 2008 9:01 pm

    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    BA_Sadie. wrote:
    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    BA_Sadie. wrote:it says god created the world it just doesn't say how and i think that might be how..im not changing anything the bible says. But, i don't necessarily take it literally i think that yeahh most of it is true but it was a long time ago and things change like there are rules in the bible that we obviously don't follow today because it would be complete nonsense to...and god didn't write it his prophets did and how can we be completely sure everything is word for word..idk i do think most of it is true though.
    in the Bible, it says the scriptures are God-breathed. God effected everyone who wrote the Bible. he is a God that hates lies, he would not let lies get mixed in with the Word. and you can tell the rules that are obviously for the old cultures(ex. most of dueteronomy) apart from the ones everone has to follow(ex. 10 commandments).

    your right i do take most of it for real but the little details i don't always think are still true today...but it doesn't really matter though as long as i believe what i know to be true. like jesus died for our sins and that god is really there and the ten commandments ect.
    yea. sounds like we're almost the only ones here that completely believe that. Sad

    ehh i don't know how people don't believe that though.
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:08 pm

    everyone that's posted here.
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    Post by BA_Sadie. Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:34 pm

    ? i think you misread my post.
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    Post by Trackaholic Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:38 pm

    I like that quote topmiler had about christians, the one ghandi said? that was awsome. and true.
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    Post by BA_Sadie. Mon Jul 07, 2008 10:40 pm

    yeahh i loved that i can't remember it exactly though but i remember seeing it and going wow thats so true.

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