Obama

alex-likes-running wrote:

ND XC 23 wrote:

alex-likes-running wrote:my parents are republican, so i guess i'd rather have mccain win.
but i really dont know to much about either canidate.

i thought you lived in HK??

yeah, i do, but my parents were born and raised in the US (they moved to hk when i was 6 because my dads boss transferred him to international affairs) and we're still US citizens.

anywho, i ended up next to Jose Zapatero...i've never heard of him haha

Read my post on the bottom of the first page.

FK wrote:It said I was closest to Jose Zapatero, prime minister of Spain. A search on Wikipedia said, "Actions of his first government have included withdrawing Spanish troops from Iraq, a controversial negotiation with the armed separatist group ETA, the creation of Spanish Courts to deal with Violence against Women, legalizing same-sex marriages and a program of amnesty for illegal immigrants."

I am strongly against all of those except for the courts against violence thing.

maybe your not a good test-taker then.. I dunno

Saying Obama is a communist is kinda stupid. There is a huge difference between supporting universal health care and being a full blown Communist. And I'm sorry to say, but our nation isn't going to not elect Obama because of some socialist policies. Look at FDR (different context, but still).

The last two Republican Presidents we've had have caused nothing but economic trouble. And the last Democratic President brought a great period of economic prosperity. He just had a crazy appetite for oral sex...and lying about it.

I'm going to leave it at that. I don't want PTZ to start hating me again.

i think the whole obama is part muslim is enough reason not to put him in office...arent we sorta fueding with the muslims

ya i am sorta rascit i guesss

but seriously its something to consider

Obama being part Muslim = McCain being old

Both are pretty stupid arguements.

this is what im confused about..someone please explain.
isn't muslim a religion?
obama is a christian so there for hes not muslim?
please explain...

Who gives a shit about the fact that he is or isn't a muslim.

He has ties to a community noted for anti-american sentiments, and we are at war with a people made up entirely of those people.

a lot of people care whether hes muslim or not...
and do you mean his heritage ties to a community noted for anti-american sentiments? i don't get how he ties to it...and if it is his heritage you can't blame him for being born into it. explain some more im sorry im not the brightest.

runforlifex3 wrote:this is what im confused about..someone please explain.
isn't muslim a religion?
obama is a christian so there for hes not muslim?
please explain...

No your right, If your a Muslim that means you practice Islam. Like if your a Christian you practice Christianity.

mae2937 wrote:
i think the whole obama is part muslim is enough reason not to put him in office...arent we sorta fueding with the muslims

ya i am sorta rascit i guesss

but seriously its something to consider

Just because he had a father (who left Obama when he was really little..trust me I had to research all this crap) who was a Muslim, this doesn't make him a Muslim. And Islam gets a bad rap because they have a few extremists (sp?) that do stupid things. That is not a fair representation of their religion; they're not all like that. His mom wasn't Muslim, I'm pretty sure she was Christian too, and I'm 95% sure on this, that his dad left obama when he was 2...sooo he wasn't even exposed to Islam. AND BESIDES He’s A CHRISTIAN!!
Just because your parent(s) belong to a religion, that doesn't make you part of their religion.

have you heard his old pastor at the church he goes to?

ProtestTheZero wrote:

He has ties to a community noted for anti-american sentiments, and we are at war with a people made up entirely of those people.

http://www.slate.com/id/2187473/

OH He's not the only one (sarcasm is hard to detect over the internet..)
I guess obamas rev. isnt as bad as everyone makes him out to be. ^^ I saw a similar article in time, so dont think that website is bogus.

And just because you go to a church with a nut, doesn't mean you have to agree with him. And yeah I know you could change churches but if all your friends etc.. are there why change? We only saw one sermon, well really more of a rant, from the man. I'd like to see him for a few church visits before I decide whether or not the man is anti-american. I know it is kinda hard to argue with that video of him though. But I really doubt Obama is anything like his Rev. Considering his mother is white and he was raised by white grandparents etc.. how could you be anti-white?! I guess you could..but it would be kinda hard.

Pinthin wrote:

ProtestTheZero wrote:

He has ties to a community noted for anti-american sentiments, and we are at war with a people made up entirely of those people.

http://www.slate.com/id/2187473/

OH He's not the only one (sarcasm is hard to detect over the internet..)
I guess obamas rev. isnt as bad as everyone makes him out to be. ^^ I saw a similar article in time, so dont think that website is bogus.

And just because you go to a church with a nut, doesn't mean you have to agree with him. And yeah I know you could change churches but if all your friends etc.. are there why change? We only saw one sermon, well really more of a rant, from the man. I'd like to see him for a few church visits before I decide whether or not the man is anti-american. I know it is kinda hard to argue with that video of him though. But I really doubt Obama is anything like his Rev. Considering his mother is white and he was raised by white grandparents etc.. how could you be anti-white?! I guess you could..but it would be kinda hard.

ok so maybe it was just one sermon
but that still doesn't change that fact that he didn't put his hand on his heart for the national anthem
and his wife's comment about it being the first time she's been proud of america

that would suggest that they do agree on their pastor's views

people have those same kind of videos for hillary and john mcain you don't know exactly what is true and what isn't. maybe he has very good reasons for not putting his hand over his heart that doesn't mean anything. don't just assume he's anti-american from one act.

Pinthin wrote:

runforlifex3 wrote:this is what im confused about..someone please explain.
isn't muslim a religion?
obama is a christian so there for hes not muslim?
please explain...

No your right, If your a Muslim that means you practice Islam. Like if your a Christian you practice Christianity.

mae2937 wrote:
i think the whole obama is part muslim is enough reason not to put him in office...arent we sorta fueding with the muslims

ya i am sorta rascit i guesss

but seriously its something to consider

Just because he had a father (who left Obama when he was really little..trust me I had to research all this crap) who was a Muslim, this doesn't make him a Muslim. And Islam gets a bad rap because they have a few extremists (sp?) that do stupid things. That is not a fair representation of their religion; they're not all like that. His mom wasn't Muslim, I'm pretty sure she was Christian too, and I'm 95% sure on this, that his dad left obama when he was 2...sooo he wasn't even exposed to Islam. AND BESIDES He’s A CHRISTIAN!!
Just because your parent(s) belong to a religion, that doesn't make you part of their religion.

wow thank you. lol

Pinthin wrote:

ProtestTheZero wrote:

He has ties to a community noted for anti-american sentiments, and we are at war with a people made up entirely of those people.

http://www.slate.com/id/2187473/

OH He's not the only one (sarcasm is hard to detect over the internet..)
I guess obamas rev. isnt as bad as everyone makes him out to be. ^^ I saw a similar article in time, so dont think that website is bogus.

And just because you go to a church with a nut, doesn't mean you have to agree with him. And yeah I know you could change churches but if all your friends etc.. are there why change? We only saw one sermon, well really more of a rant, from the man. I'd like to see him for a few church visits before I decide whether or not the man is anti-american. I know it is kinda hard to argue with that video of him though. But I really doubt Obama is anything like his Rev. Considering his mother is white and he was raised by white grandparents etc.. how could you be anti-white?! I guess you could..but it would be kinda hard.

completely agree. i would definetly not want to be judged by what my pastor says or does. he is not me.

I DONT CARE IF WE PUT BUCKWHEEEEEAT IN THERE AS LONG AS ITS NOT BUSHHHH.

XC_crazy wrote:

Pinthin wrote:

ProtestTheZero wrote:

He has ties to a community noted for anti-american sentiments, and we are at war with a people made up entirely of those people.

http://www.slate.com/id/2187473/

OH He's not the only one (sarcasm is hard to detect over the internet..)
I guess obamas rev. isnt as bad as everyone makes him out to be. ^^ I saw a similar article in time, so dont think that website is bogus.

And just because you go to a church with a nut, doesn't mean you have to agree with him. And yeah I know you could change churches but if all your friends etc.. are there why change? We only saw one sermon, well really more of a rant, from the man. I'd like to see him for a few church visits before I decide whether or not the man is anti-american. I know it is kinda hard to argue with that video of him though. But I really doubt Obama is anything like his Rev. Considering his mother is white and he was raised by white grandparents etc.. how could you be anti-white?! I guess you could..but it would be kinda hard.

ok so maybe it was just one sermon
but that still doesn't change that fact that he didn't put his hand on his heart for the national anthem
and his wife's comment about it being the first time she's been proud of america

that would suggest that they do agree on their pastor's views

His wifes comment was taken the wrong way,she explained what she meant later..She's a pretty smart lady, I doubt she'd be dumb enough to say "i'm not proud of america" when she's trying to get her husband elected.

and i'm not sure why he doesnt put his hand over his heart. I know at the state track meet however, when they were singing the nat'anthem I saw a ton of people not do it, I was always told too but I almost feel stupid now because I'm one of few that still do it.

ProtestTheZero wrote:Who gives a shit about the fact that he is or isn't a muslim.

He has ties to a community noted for anti-american sentiments, and we are at war with a people made up entirely of those people.

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thats what im trying to say...i think

Who cares if Obama is part Muslim and Christian? Like most of America his faith probably goes under the "traditional" heading anyway.

people care because they don't like muslims because of terrorists and stuff which is crap. you judge a whole religion on a couple idiots. and obama isn't muslim! lol. i don't care if his ancestors are its not him and what would it matter anyway.

History shows that people don't seem to like Jews, Muslims, or Christians. Anyone else seeing a connection?

i don't get it. you mean jews muslims and christains don't like anyone?

no people dont like them

? ? muslim and christianity are the top religions...how can people not like them?

and its not the religion we're feuding with, its the countries they happen to live in.

no its the religon...in the bible it says that the descendets of ishmael would be a large race and have constant feuding or something like that i dont remember i do homework through bible class, but it does have something do with the religon we are fighting the groups who believe that killing people is the way to get yourself to a higher place and heaven

and we are trying to make iraq a free nation not destroy it

and not everyone likes christain, muslims, and jew...most people actually hate them