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    Post by Push Towards State Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:59 am

    You guys may of heard about Gerry Lindgren. As some of you may know I've been running a regimen similar to his during high school. He ran 200-300 mpw or so from what he claims. I used to run single 70-80 mpw until I got a job and so yesterday I emailed him about how I could achieve my goal. (Top 25 in XC state). This was my email and this was his response.

    High School Runner Please read‏
    From: Tony Montiel
    Sent: Wed 8/13/08 5:45 PM
    To: Gerry the Jogger (gerrythejogger@aol.com)




    Mr. Lindgren,

    I first would like to say how
    honored I feel writing to you. You have been a a major influence to me.
    In Fact, you are the reason I started running Cross Country and Track.
    I am a wimpy runner and I need to accomplish a goal that I have always
    wanted to achieve. I want to place in the top 25 at state in Cross
    Country. I've been running for 2 years. Most of my mileage is 35-40
    mpw. My best 3 mile was done in under 3 months of running. This summer
    I have been running long runs on some days. (8-10 miles.) I want to
    know what you did during high school. I am prepared to do whatever it
    takes to go to state. I want to start running twice a day like you did,
    a session by myself and a session with the team. I heard you did severe
    fartleks everyday. Should I follow this? Below are my
    times.I'm sorry for the long story and I hope you have time to look
    into my situation. Thank you.

    800-2:10
    1600-4:42
    3 mile- 17:45






    Re: High School Runner Please read‏
    From: GerrytheJogger@aol.com
    Sent: Thu 8/14/08 9:45 PM
    To: Tony Montiel

    Your times are not too bad Montiel.
    When I was in high school I did 3 workouts a day. I ran about 5-6
    miles before school; Ran with the team after school; and then I got up
    at 1 or 2 in the morning to get in another 10 miles or so. I averaged
    around 25-35 miles. BUT, I did not count miles at all. I didn't have
    any idea how many miles I was running. Didn't even think about it.
    What I was thinking was that the other runners where NOT doing it. To
    be able to stay up with faster runners you need to work MORE THAN THEY
    DO. On weekends I ran all day. I would take a lunch and run to Mt.
    Spokane, 44 miles north of Spokane; Neuman Lake, 57 miles east of
    Spokane; or even Coeur 'd Alene 76 miles out. But then, I was the
    slowest guy on my XC team and needed to run more miles than everyone
    else just to keep up with them.
    Doing one persons' workout or another will not get you where you
    want to go, Montiel. You need to develop your OWN plan; one that is
    made by you and fits your life. I found that if I could sprint in the
    middle of races most of the other guys would give up. So I trained
    with all out hard quarter-mile sprints in the middle of long runs. I
    found out I got too tired near the end of races so I started doing hard
    sprints up a steep 1.25 mile mountain. Whatever it takes is the
    Montiel system of training, yes?


    I was so thrilled that I received an email from him. I will save this email for the rest of my life.
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    Post by xotrackkgirl Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:28 am

    aww thats awesome.

    76 miles. hah wow. =o

    So what's going to be the Montiel way?
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    Post by Push Towards State Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:01 am

    lol maybe you guys can help out?
    Actually I'm just gonna borrow his plan. Maybe add more miles.


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    Post by hxc Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:22 am

    Just keep building your base, and get your aerobic capacity as high as possible. Aerobic, not anaerobic, capacity is what determines your performance. He's living proof of that. He raised his aerobic capacity to amazing levels during high school, and while he wasn't the best then, he soon became one of the best runners in the world.
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    Post by BagoXC25 Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:27 am

    Did you not read what he just said? You asked him, and he told you to figure out what you should do by yourself. Then you come here and ask what we think you should do. Just run dude, you aren't on my good side right now...
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    Post by Push Towards State Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:33 am

    BagoXC25 wrote:Did you not read what he just said? You asked him, and he told you to figure out what you should do by yourself. Then you come here and ask what we think you should do. Just run dude, you aren't on my good side right now...


    Rolling Eyes What good side?

    I just wanted to show of this email! I still can't believe it!! dance
    Ill stop now.
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    Post by FinishingKick Fri Aug 15, 2008 11:57 am

    Do what he did but do it your own way. He evaluated what was weak in his performances and changed his training to incorporate it more, you should do the same.
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:05 pm

    BagoXC25 wrote:Did you not read what he just said? You asked him, and he told you to figure out what you should do by yourself. Then you come here and ask what we think you should do. Just run dude, you aren't on my good side right now...
    +1, when i'm having problems i don't normally email formally great runners from 50 years ago Rolling Eyes


    if you really did, that is.
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    Post by NotChangingUntilSub5 Fri Aug 15, 2008 12:57 pm

    If you want to follow a great's training plan, follow Steve Magness's
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    Post by hxc Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:09 pm

    And while you're at it you can suck Steve Magness's dick like everyone else on Dyestat.


    JK, Magness does have a great training plan. His website has a lot of good info also.
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    Post by Push Towards State Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:17 pm

    FinishingKick wrote:Do what he did but do it your own way. He evaluated what was weak in his performances and changed his training to incorporate it more, you should do the same.

    scratch Why didn't I think of that? Thanks FK
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Fri Aug 15, 2008 1:19 pm

    how the heck did you get his email address, anyway?
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    Post by Push Towards State Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:03 pm

    I googled his name and his website came up. Hes also on Letsrun as GerrytheJogger.
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    Post by BagoXC25 Fri Aug 15, 2008 2:24 pm

    Its not that I don't have respect for the former high school 5k record holder (which he had for 40 years until Rupp beat it), because in fact I have his picture as my wall paper, it's just that you need to catch up on some running knowledge and decide what you need to work on, like Gerry and FK said. And I do have a good side, you just havn't seen it yet.
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    Post by Through_the_Pain Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:06 pm

    Wow thats pretty cool
    Cant imagine how excited u must feel to get a letter from ur idol.
    I just read up on him on wiki and he was really good.
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    Post by Push Towards State Fri Aug 15, 2008 7:33 pm

    yeah. Email him whenever you want.

    gerrythejogger@aol.com

    I'm trying to get one of his autobiographies but unfortunately he can't find any publishers.
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    Post by Through_the_Pain Fri Aug 15, 2008 8:53 pm

    should u really be giving out the guys email adress
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    Post by Push Towards State Fri Aug 15, 2008 9:33 pm

    well he posted it on his website.
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    Post by FinishingKick Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:21 pm

    Through_the_Pain wrote:Wow thats pretty cool
    Cant imagine how excited u must feel to get a letter from ur idol.
    I just read up on him on wiki and he was really good.
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    Post by Through_the_Pain Fri Aug 15, 2008 10:51 pm

    FinishingKick wrote:
    Through_the_Pain wrote:Wow thats pretty cool
    Cant imagine how excited u must feel to get a letter from ur idol.
    I just read up on him on wiki and he was really good.
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    I never heard of the guy before this. If u ask a random person off the street they wouldnt know either.How else am i supposed to find out about the guy
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    Post by Push Towards State Wed Aug 20, 2008 9:21 pm

    FinishingKick wrote:
    Through_the_Pain wrote:Wow thats pretty cool
    Cant imagine how excited u must feel to get a letter from ur idol.
    I just read up on him on wiki and he was really good.
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    Lately all I've seen you do is put down people.
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    Post by FinishingKick Wed Aug 20, 2008 10:37 pm

    Push Towards State wrote:
    FinishingKick wrote:
    Through_the_Pain wrote:Wow thats pretty cool
    Cant imagine how excited u must feel to get a letter from ur idol.
    I just read up on him on wiki and he was really good.
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    Lately all I've seen you do is put down people.
    Good observation. How about that?
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    Post by Running With Scissors Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:29 am

    FinishingKick wrote:
    Push Towards State wrote:
    FinishingKick wrote:
    Through_the_Pain wrote:Wow thats pretty cool
    Cant imagine how excited u must feel to get a letter from ur idol.
    I just read up on him on wiki and he was really good.
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    Lately all I've seen you do is put down people.
    Good observation. How about that?

    He's right you know.
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    Post by DyingToRun Thu Aug 21, 2008 12:35 am

    I say gratz from getting a email from your idol
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    Post by eternally_running Thu Aug 21, 2008 9:02 pm

    that is so awesome!!!!! im jealous!!! jk
    pretty sweet!!!

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