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    Post by BA_Sadie. Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:29 pm

    pshh and yeah golfing nascar and competitve cheerleading are def. sports.

    competitive cheerleading is like gymnastics and golfing is really hard to be good at...don't even get me started on nascar i know lots of guys who race and work just as hard at that as we do at running.
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    Post by BA_Sadie. Sat Aug 02, 2008 9:32 pm

    Wow wrote:
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    1. Competitive eating. Really, are you kidding?


    Joey Chestnut is the pride of San Jose (yeeyee)!

    And they're thinking about putting chess in the Olympics.

    Also, if cheerleading doesn't count as a sport then what about gymnastics as well.. since it's a "panel of judges" judging both. Or even ice skating.

    dude seriously gymnastics and ice skating are definetly sports..i know i could never do what they do.
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    Post by FinishingKick Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:04 pm

    BA_Sadie. wrote:pshh and yeah golfing nascar and competitve cheerleading are def. sports.

    competitive cheerleading is like gymnastics and golfing is really hard to be good at...don't even get me started on nascar i know lots of guys who race and work just as hard at that as we do at running.
    Doctors and lawyers work hard all day. Does that make them athletes?
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    Post by BA_Sadie. Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:13 pm

    good point but i mean they work at the athletics of nascar just as hard as we work at the athletics of running.
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    Post by FinishingKick Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:14 pm

    BA_Sadie. wrote:good point but i mean they work at the athletics of nascar just as hard as we work at the athletics of running.
    I don't think so, they sit down all day and work on hand-eye coordination, it sounds like video games.
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    Post by *sg* Sat Aug 02, 2008 10:30 pm

    I would say that the only way a cheerleader could claim to be participating in a sport would be if they were really good and it was more like gymnastics... because gymnastics is definately a sport... it requires a lot of strength and overall fitness.

    I think that to be considered a sport an activity needs to require some sort of physical strength...this doesn't include physical skill/muscle memory, like golf. Purely mental games like chess and poker also do not constitute a sport b/c there is no physical aspect.

    But, by this definition of sport, not everything in the olympics is a sport... things like sailing, horseback riding, ping pong, etc., I wouldn't consider sports. But they are games/hobbies... and the olympics are called the "Olympic Games" so that's fine, everything in the olympics doesn't need to be a sport.
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    Post by CT Track Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:15 pm

    FinishingKick wrote:
    BA_Sadie. wrote:good point but i mean they work at the athletics of nascar just as hard as we work at the athletics of running.
    I don't think so, they sit down all day and work on hand-eye coordination, it sounds like video games.

    On the contrary, NASCAR drivers have to stay in shape to keep the weight of the car down, and work out their whole body to stand the g forces of the car.
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    Post by Tri Babe 518 Sat Aug 02, 2008 11:55 pm

    FinishingKick wrote:
    BA_Sadie. wrote:pshh and yeah golfing nascar and competitve cheerleading are def. sports.

    competitive cheerleading is like gymnastics and golfing is really hard to be good at...don't even get me started on nascar i know lots of guys who race and work just as hard at that as we do at running.
    Doctors and lawyers work hard all day. Does that make them athletes?

    We really need to define what an athlete is.

    Dictionary.com says: "a person trained or gifted in exercises or contests involving physical agility, stamina, or strength; a participant in a sport, exercise, or game requiring physical skill. "

    Hmmm...
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    Post by alex-likes-running Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:16 am

    CT Track wrote:
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    BA_Sadie. wrote:good point but i mean they work at the athletics of nascar just as hard as we work at the athletics of running.
    I don't think so, they sit down all day and work on hand-eye coordination, it sounds like video games.

    On the contrary, NASCAR drivers have to stay in shape to keep the weight of the car down, and work out their whole body to stand the g forces of the car.
    i dont know if this is true or not, but dont astronauts have to do that as well? im not sure if i'd call flying a spaceship a sport.
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    Post by Wow Sun Aug 03, 2008 1:18 am

    FinishingKick wrote:
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    Wow wrote:This is actually kind of funny seeing this discussion on a running forum as well.. considering many people don't think track is a sport...

    those people are idiots who need to actually go do it, then tell us if it deserves the title of "sport".

    Maybe that's what people who do the respective sport would say about something like gymnastics or golf.

    Point being: Most people think just running isn't considered a sport, a feat of athleticism it is but not a sport.
    there aren't a lot of people that don't think track is a sport.
    I agree, they may not think it's a "real" sport like football, but they don't put it on the same level as ballet and cheer leading.

    Nah, I've heard a lot of people say it's a type of "athleticism" but not really a sport (because no coordination, etc. needed). People do it to get fit or whatever, but there's no actual "skill" involved (like shooting, hitting, etc)
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    Post by FinishingKick Mon Aug 11, 2008 12:11 am

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    BA_Sadie. wrote:good point but i mean they work at the athletics of nascar just as hard as we work at the athletics of running.
    I don't think so, they sit down all day and work on hand-eye coordination, it sounds like video games.

    On the contrary, NASCAR drivers have to stay in shape to keep the weight of the car down, and work out their whole body to stand the g forces of the car.
    But not that fit so that guys in their 40s and 50s can't do it.
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    Post by mae2937 Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:37 am

    xotrackkgirl wrote:hah my friend is a cheerleader and she goes on and on about how it's a sport and how much muscle she has.

    i just keep it to myself, but i don't really think cheerleading is a sport.

    cheerleading for a school is not a sport but i think competitive cheerleading is a sport one of my friends is a competitive cheerleader for a team that wins or places high at nationals every year and being on that team is most definetly a sport
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    Post by Hurdle-Gurl Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:43 am

    baby got track wrote:My friend thinks marching band's a sport... I don't.
    I'm sure it's tough to walk around with a giant instrument or twirl around a giant flag in colorguard, but I still don't think that qualifies it as a sport...

    I won't classify it as a sport but it's pretty gosh darn hard @ my school. We're trying to get it to count as half a gym credit since we do so much and work so hard.
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    Post by mae2937 Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:52 am

    haha some band geeks at my school told me that they were more atheltic and musically talented than i was...and i almost cried i was laughing so hard...i am sorry i cant play the violen in the marching band but i could murder them in running also....so really i am actually MORE musically talented and atheltic than they are
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    Post by FinishingKick Mon Aug 11, 2008 11:00 am

    mae2937 wrote:haha some band geeks at my school told me that they were more atheltic and musically talented than i was...and i almost cried i was laughing so hard...i am sorry i cant play the violen in the marching band but i could murder them in running also....so really i am actually MORE musically talented and atheltic than they are
    Lol you just laughed at them and then told them the same thing.
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    Post by TnF_T Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:22 pm

    BA_Sadie. wrote:pshh and yeah golfing nascar and competitve cheerleading are def. sports.

    competitive cheerleading is like gymnastics and golfing is really hard to be good at...don't even get me started on nascar i know lots of guys who race and work just as hard at that as we do at running.
    yah, sitting in a carseat for hours at a time, thats just grueling
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    Post by BA_Sadie. Mon Aug 11, 2008 10:51 pm

    nvm nvm. it was a bad point haha.

    but i still respect racers--i guess i have a bias i have two friends that race cars. :/
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    Post by FinishingKick Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:04 am

    ATribeCalledGreg wrote:These people don't realize just because you are good at something doesn't mean it's a sport.
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    Post by ND XC 23 Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:49 am

    spelling (the spelling bee is on espn)
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    Post by ND XC 23 Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:52 am

    *sg* wrote:I would say that the only way a cheerleader could claim to be participating in a sport would be if they were really good and it was more like gymnastics... because gymnastics is definately a sport... it requires a lot of strength and overall fitness.

    I think that to be considered a sport an activity needs to require some sort of physical strength...this doesn't include physical skill/muscle memory, like golf. Purely mental games like chess and poker also do not constitute a sport b/c there is no physical aspect.

    But, by this definition of sport, not everything in the olympics is a sport... things like sailing, horseback riding, ping pong, etc., I wouldn't consider sports. But they are games/hobbies... and the olympics are called the "Olympic Games" so that's fine, everything in the olympics doesn't need to be a sport.

    agreed on the cheerleading thing. but only when its the real competetive type because those girls who just wave their pom poms and scream definitely arent athletes

    and i also agree with your definition of sport. so that would put nascar out of the picture (you dont need to lift weights/physically exert yourself to be good)
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    Post by FinishingKick Wed Aug 13, 2008 10:54 am

    I don't think any cheerleading is a sport.
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    Post by eternally_running Thu Aug 14, 2008 10:48 pm

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    *sg* wrote:I would say that the only way a cheerleader could claim to be participating in a sport would be if they were really good and it was more like gymnastics... because gymnastics is definately a sport... it requires a lot of strength and overall fitness.

    I think that to be considered a sport an activity needs to require some sort of physical strength...this doesn't include physical skill/muscle memory, like golf. Purely mental games like chess and poker also do not constitute a sport b/c there is no physical aspect.

    But, by this definition of sport, not everything in the olympics is a sport... things like sailing, horseback riding, ping pong, etc., I wouldn't consider sports. But they are games/hobbies... and the olympics are called the "Olympic Games" so that's fine, everything in the olympics doesn't need to be a sport.

    agreed on the cheerleading thing. but only when its the real competetive type because those girls who just wave their pom poms and scream definitely arent athletes

    and i also agree with your definition of sport. so that would put nascar out of the picture (you dont need to lift weights/physically exert yourself to be good)

    i agree. when cheer get competitive, then i define it as a sport. But when they yell and scream, and wave pom poms, its not a sport.
    Did you guys know that sailboating is in the olympics?
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    Post by RUNxxWILD07 Sun Aug 17, 2008 11:46 am

    at our school you get out of gym for being in the marching band, but not for poms. and cheerleaders get out of gym too.

    Pommers should at least get out of gym before band geeks do.
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    Post by funrunner Sun Aug 17, 2008 1:48 pm

    Just few notes about the band thing (I'm in a competitive marching band so I think all of my points are accurate):

    1. It definitely is NOT a sport. It requires almost no physical fitness of any kind.

    2. It definitely IS a lot of hard work, but most of the work is standing around in the sun marching back and forth between two spots until everyone looks/sounds good doing it. It's boring, it's hard work, but it isn't physically demanding in any way.

    3. Greg, band is much more than a side show at a football game. Serious marching bands compete. If your school's band doesn't compete, then they probably aren't very good.

    4. Mae, you're probably much more athletic than your little band buddies, but from my experience, most HS string players (especially those who can't spell "violin", considering how far apart i and e are on a keyboard) completely suck. You might not, but your not going to prove it.

    Golf = sport
    NASCAR =/= sport
    Cheerleading =/= sport
    Gymnastics definitely = sport
    Hunting =/= sport
    Hunters often = douchebags

    As a general rule, if your school requires an athletic physical to be filled out, the activity is a sport.

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