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    Post by Running With Scissors Mon Jun 02, 2008 12:06 am

    sorry :geek:
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Mon Jun 02, 2008 5:24 pm

    FinishingKick wrote:
    Running With Scissors wrote:
    TehNextTopMiler wrote:eh. i don't beleive it's a fair representation of some of the states.

    agree
    They're not an end all, they just show us some facts. And they took a long time if you must know. explosive big grin
    to copy and paste NTN results? ok....
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    Post by FinishingKick Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:43 pm

    TehNextTopMiler wrote:
    FinishingKick wrote:
    Running With Scissors wrote:
    TehNextTopMiler wrote:eh. i don't beleive it's a fair representation of some of the states.

    agree
    They're not an end all, they just show us some facts. And they took a long time if you must know. explosive big grin
    to copy and paste NTN results? ok....
    First you have to find the results, then research what state each team is from, then score it, and then go through and take out teams that scored once. It took at least 15 minutes.
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:46 pm

    FinishingKick wrote:
    TehNextTopMiler wrote:
    FinishingKick wrote:
    Running With Scissors wrote:
    TehNextTopMiler wrote:eh. i don't beleive it's a fair representation of some of the states.

    agree
    They're not an end all, they just show us some facts. And they took a long time if you must know. explosive big grin
    to copy and paste NTN results? ok....
    First you have to find the results, then research what state each team is from, then score it, and then go through and take out teams that scored once. It took at least 15 minutes.
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    Post by FinishingKick Mon Jun 02, 2008 6:55 pm

    TehNextTopMiler wrote:
    FinishingKick wrote:
    TehNextTopMiler wrote:
    FinishingKick wrote:
    Running With Scissors wrote:
    TehNextTopMiler wrote:eh. i don't beleive it's a fair representation of some of the states.

    agree
    They're not an end all, they just show us some facts. And they took a long time if you must know. explosive big grin
    to copy and paste NTN results? ok....
    First you have to find the results, then research what state each team is from, then score it, and then go through and take out teams that scored once. It took at least 15 minutes.
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    Post by XCTrackXC Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:38 pm

    Top 25 from a few State's XC meet results from 2007.

    I'm missing a lot of states and they aren't perfect comparisons, the IL state meet for example is a 3 mile race not 5K, there's course differences, weather/condition differences etc.. And it's only looking at the large-school divisions so there are certainly differences there too. But it's just another thing to look at.
    If anyone can find other's post them up, I was too lazy/got mad when I couldn't find New York's results :p
    And it's guys only because I was lazy



    CA
    -----5K
    1-14:24
    2-15:38
    3-15:44
    4-15:45
    5-16:06
    6-16:09
    7-16:10
    8-16:11
    9-16:12
    10-16:15
    11-16:21
    12-16:22
    13-16:25
    14-16:26
    15-16:27
    16-16:32
    17-16:32
    18-16:34
    19-16:34
    20-16:34
    21-16:35
    22-16:36
    23-16:37
    24-16:38
    25-16:38


    TX
    -----5K
    1-14:45
    2-15:00
    3-15:08
    4-15:15
    5-15:23
    6-15:23
    7-15:25
    8-15:31
    9-15:34
    10-15:37
    11-15:37
    12-15:39
    13-15:39
    14-15:40
    15-15:42
    16-15:42
    17-15:43
    18-15:43
    19-15:43
    20-15:44
    21-15:46
    22-15:46
    23-15:49
    24-15:49

    IL
    -----3 Mile
    1-13:52
    2-14:12
    3-14:17
    4-14:25
    5-14:26
    6-14:33
    7-14:33
    8-14:34
    9-14:35
    10-14:36
    11-14:38
    12-14:41
    13-14:45
    14-14:48
    15-14:48
    16-14:49
    17-14:49
    18-14:51
    19-14:53
    20-14:53
    21-14:54
    22-14:55
    23-14:57
    24-14:58
    25-14:59
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:43 pm

    looks like TX was better than CA....
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    Post by Running With Scissors Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:46 pm

    AudienceOfOne wrote:looks like TX was better than CA....

    A LOT better if those numbers are true
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:55 pm

    did TX really put 30 people under 16?
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    Post by PCNQtrack Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:56 pm

    well it says so...
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Thu Jun 19, 2008 4:59 pm

    PCNQtrack wrote:well it says so...
    i have a hard time believingg that.
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    Post by PCNQtrack Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:00 pm

    sure it does, you just aren't looking hard enough
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    Post by mae2937 Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:01 pm

    alabama is not even near on there No
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:02 pm

    PCNQtrack wrote:sure it does, you just aren't looking hard enough
    that doesn't make sense....
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:03 pm

    mae2937 wrote:alabama is not even near on there No
    because it's not good. especially if WW wins it.
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    Post by mae2937 Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:05 pm

    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    mae2937 wrote:alabama is not even near on there No
    because it's not good. especially if WW wins it.

    ya we are not known for xc

    but we are pretty mean at football
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    Post by BA_Sadie. Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:05 pm

    yeah you have that show two-a-days.
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:06 pm

    mae2937 wrote:
    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    mae2937 wrote:alabama is not even near on there No
    because it's not good. especially if WW wins it.

    ya we are not known for xc

    but we are pretty mean at football
    so i hear....
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    Post by FinishingKick Thu Jun 19, 2008 5:45 pm

    That won't work, XC courses range in difficulty.
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    Post by XCTrackXC Thu Jun 19, 2008 9:47 pm

    AudienceOfOne wrote:looks like TX was better than CA....
    The TX numbers are off. I couldn't find the state meet results, the ones posted are a mix of different meets. The fastest ones ran during the 2007 season.

    Then there are course, conditions, class-size, etc differences.

    California for instance is like a 1049102 class state and even though it has a higher population it's possible it has less people in a given class, I can't say for sure though.
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    Post by XCTrackXC Thu Jun 19, 2008 10:28 pm

    Found the TX State meet results.
    1-15:11.15
    2-15:36.30
    3-15:40.75
    4-15:47.95
    5-15:52.90
    6-15:53.05
    7-15:54.70
    8-16:01.10
    9-16:03.40
    10-16:09.00
    11-16:12.35
    12-16:13.90
    13-16:15.75
    14-16:21.35
    15-16:21.85
    16-16:23.00
    17-16:24.30
    18-16:24.85
    19-16:24.95
    20-16:26.95
    21-16:28.25
    22-16:28.75
    23-16:28.75
    24-16:29.00
    25-16:29.15
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    Post by FinishingKick Fri Jun 20, 2008 7:21 am

    So the Texas course could be flat and the California course could be hilly. I know ours is no picnic, but I don't know how tough it is.
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    Post by BagoXC25 Fri Jun 20, 2008 10:49 am

    If you add in A and AA to those Illinois numbers (which currently only represents AAA) then you would have 3 more people sub-15 for A and 6 more for AA. Also, a 15:00 3 mile converts to a 15:34 5k, so we had 30 people sub 15:30 pace.
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    Post by AudienceOfOne Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:26 pm

    XCTrackXC wrote:
    AudienceOfOne wrote:looks like TX was better than CA....
    The TX numbers are off. I couldn't find the state meet results, the ones posted are a mix of different meets. The fastest ones ran during the 2007 season.

    Then there are course, conditions, class-size, etc differences.

    California for instance is like a 1049102 class state and even though it has a higher population it's possible it has less people in a given class, I can't say for sure though.
    yea, i figured.
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    Post by Running With Scissors Sat Jun 21, 2008 6:43 pm

    FK wrote:So the Texas course could be flat and the California course could be hilly. I know ours is no picnic, but I don't know how tough it is.

    are course is really really hard
    my pr is 17:50 and on that course i ran a 19:something (at districts cause state and districts is held at the same place for me, Hershey)

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