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FinishingKick
Pinthin
iWearNikes
ctk4xc11
hannah
alex-likes-running
Lily
calrunner
T B K
mary XC
running_violet
AudienceOfOne
Running With Scissors
CT Track
runner_dude
ButterySmoothStride
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What is the probability of this?
ButterySmoothStride- Pro
- Number of posts : 427
Registration date : 2008-06-19
- Post n°1
What is the probability of this?
Someone I know made a pretty lofty claim. He claimed to have run a 16:02 3 mile during gym class. He doesn't run track or cross country. He plays baseball and basketball and works out to "stay fit." He also smokes cigarettes. It's safe to assume he was wearing trainers and gym clothes, not racing shoes/clothes. What is the probability that he actually did this? I personally find it highly unlikely. Anyone who can run 16:02 cold would most likely be way under 14 minutes with training.
runner_dude- Elite
- Number of posts : 1524
Age : 33
Location : Nova Scotia
Mile Time : 4:52
Class : University Freshman
Registration date : 2008-06-05
- Post n°2
Re: What is the probability of this?
If he smokes, I'd call BS right away. Challenge him to a race to back it up. Or talk to the Gym teacher, they'd probably know.
CT Track- All-Pro
- Number of posts : 774
Age : 33
Location : Torrington CT/Moon, PA
Mile Time : 2012
Class : 15:32
Registration date : 2008-07-14
- Post n°3
Re: What is the probability of this?
Our 4:21 miler smokes and he runs fine at meets. He may be stretching the truth, but it's possible he can keep a decent pace. You don't have to be a cross country runner to be physically fit. A very narrow minded stereotype.
ButterySmoothStride- Pro
- Number of posts : 427
Registration date : 2008-06-19
- Post n°4
Re: What is the probability of this?
i'm not denying that he's fit. i'm saying that a 16:02 3 mile is far beyond the realm of "physically fit." a 20 minute 3 miler is reasonably fit. 16:02 is a competitive high school xc time, and he's saying he did it in gym class with trainers.
Running With Scissors- Admin
- Number of posts : 4345
Age : 31
Location : Pennsylvania
Mile Time : 4:42
Class : 2010
5000m XC Time : 16:45
Registration date : 2008-05-22
- Post n°5
Re: What is the probability of this?
Total BS. Call him out.
AudienceOfOne- Admin
- Number of posts : 5377
Age : 31
Location : Nati fo eva
Class : 2011
3200m Time : 10:17
Registration date : 2008-05-24
- Post n°6
Re: What is the probability of this?
Who cares? It's obvious he didn't do it.
running_violet- All-Pro
- Number of posts : 930
Age : 29
Location : cold cold Wisconsin
Mile Time : 5:42
Class : 2013
5000m XC Time : 20:13 (road race)
Registration date : 2008-06-24
- Post n°7
Re: What is the probability of this?
i don't buy it.
psh, gym class, trainers, bull...
psh, gym class, trainers, bull...
mary XC- Pro
- Number of posts : 267
Age : 28
Location : South Carolina
Mile Time : 6:01 (hopefully sub 6 soon!)
Class : 8th grade
800m Time : 2:47.47
5000m XC Time : 21:17
Registration date : 2008-05-31
- Post n°8
Re: What is the probability of this?
was it 3 miles on the track or on a course with hills and stuff? i dont think he did it, but ask the teacher, or somebody in his gym class.
T B K- Elite
- Number of posts : 1667
Location : Florida
Mile Time : 5:39
Class : 2013
800m Time : 2:38
5000m XC Time : 20:18
Registration date : 2008-06-29
- Post n°9
Re: What is the probability of this?
+1 on challenging him to a race.runner_dude wrote:If he smokes, I'd call BS right away. Challenge him to a race to back it up. Or talk to the Gym teacher, they'd probably know.
calrunner- Rookie
- Number of posts : 28
Age : 32
Location : Southern California
Class : 2009 (Seniors)
800m Time : 2:17
5000m XC Time : 18:09
Registration date : 2008-12-14
- Post n°10
Re: What is the probability of this?
Ask him if he knows that 12 laps=3 miles.
Lily- Pro
- Number of posts : 462
Age : 30
Location : New Jersey
Mile Time : 5:56
Class : 2011
800m Time : 2:34
5000m XC Time : 20:45
Registration date : 2008-11-27
- Post n°11
Re: What is the probability of this?
i don't think he reallly did it either. but there's a girl on my track team that smokes (pot and cigz), doesn't train, and drinks the night before meets and she runs a 2:10 800. i know the 800 is different though.
alex-likes-running- Global Moderator
- Number of posts : 3314
Age : 31
Location : HK
Class : 2010
800m Time : 2:28
5000m XC Time : 20:36
Half-Marathon Time : 1:50
Registration date : 2008-05-22
- Post n°12
Re: What is the probability of this?
he didnt do it. go beat him in a race lol
hannah- Amateur
- Number of posts : 92
Registration date : 2008-07-11
- Post n°13
Re: What is the probability of this?
eh i think he might think he ran a 16:02, but he probably cut corners or didn't do all of the laps. it could be total bs though.
i might believe it if he just smoked/ran it in trainers, but the gym class makes it totally unbelievable. everyone cheats in the gym mile
(or 3 mile in this case i guess)
i might believe it if he just smoked/ran it in trainers, but the gym class makes it totally unbelievable. everyone cheats in the gym mile
(or 3 mile in this case i guess)
ctk4xc11- Pro
- Number of posts : 155
Age : 33
Location : VA
Mile Time : 4:46
Class : Senior
800m Time : 1:59
5000m XC Time : 16:53
Registration date : 2008-06-19
- Post n°14
Re: What is the probability of this?
um the real question is, who the heck would run 3 miles in gym class?
iWearNikes- Pro
- Number of posts : 423
Age : 32
Location : Ohio
Mile Time : PR=4:54
Class : 2010
5000m XC Time : 18:30
Registration date : 2008-08-02
- Post n°15
Re: What is the probability of this?
I'm calling shenanigans. kick his ass in a race.
Running With Scissors- Admin
- Number of posts : 4345
Age : 31
Location : Pennsylvania
Mile Time : 4:42
Class : 2010
5000m XC Time : 16:45
Registration date : 2008-05-22
- Post n°16
Re: What is the probability of this?
ctk4xc11 wrote:um the real question is, who the heck would run 3 miles in gym class?
+1 The only time we are timed in gym is for the mile.
alex-likes-running- Global Moderator
- Number of posts : 3314
Age : 31
Location : HK
Class : 2010
800m Time : 2:28
5000m XC Time : 20:36
Half-Marathon Time : 1:50
Registration date : 2008-05-22
- Post n°17
Re: What is the probability of this?
in my school for middle school its a 3k time trial, (i got like, 18 minutes in 8th grade lol.)
and for high school
its a 4k time trial (ran 16:49 last year)
and then we also have the beep test.
but my school probably does it differently.
and for high school
its a 4k time trial (ran 16:49 last year)
and then we also have the beep test.
but my school probably does it differently.
Pinthin- Elite
- Number of posts : 2888
Age : 32
Location : down by the bay, washington
Mile Time : none
Class : 2010
Registration date : 2008-05-23
- Post n°18
Re: What is the probability of this?
doubt it.
(I dont know him) but he could be oblivious how far he actually ran, not that he's trying to look good. ehh basically I dont think he's lying, he's just dumb.
(I dont know him) but he could be oblivious how far he actually ran, not that he's trying to look good. ehh basically I dont think he's lying, he's just dumb.
FinishingKick- Admin
- Number of posts : 4773
Age : 31
Location : New York
Mile Time : 4:52
Class : Sophomore
800m Time : 2:10
5000m XC Time : 17:29
1000m Time : 2:50
Registration date : 2008-05-22
- Post n°19
Re: What is the probability of this?
Good to see you back, BSS.
My guess is that it was a grass course and it was nowhere near 3 miles. However we had a 4:08 miler who smoked a few years back. Also A sophomore around here who ran a 4:19 mile yesterday ran an 18 something 5k with no training when he was in 7th grade; just throwing it out there.
My guess is that it was a grass course and it was nowhere near 3 miles. However we had a 4:08 miler who smoked a few years back. Also A sophomore around here who ran a 4:19 mile yesterday ran an 18 something 5k with no training when he was in 7th grade; just throwing it out there.
BagoXC25- Pro
- Number of posts : 364
Age : 33
Location : Winnebago
Registration date : 2008-06-03
- Post n°20
Re: What is the probability of this?
one of my friends ran a 4:57 mile in gym class with no training in 8th grade.
Wgrt- All-Pro
- Number of posts : 507
Registration date : 2008-09-01
- Post n°21
Re: What is the probability of this?
just ask someone
Yosh- Rookie
- Number of posts : 27
800m Time : 2:10
Half-Marathon Time : 1:47:38 (extrapolated from a hilly 25k road race)
Registration date : 2009-02-24
- Post n°22
Re: What is the probability of this?
All this talk of people who smoke/not train and still do well pisses me off. I think this guy is lying. Someone might be able to tough it through a mile or less without training, but a 3 mile in 16 something is unbelievable.
Love For Running- Pro
- Number of posts : 156
Age : 32
Location : Georgia
Mile Time : 5:41
Class : 09!
5000m XC Time : 19:33
Registration date : 2008-06-25
- Post n°23
Re: What is the probability of this?
I don't understand why people feel the need to lie to XC or Track runners and say "Oh I can do this so I'm better than you and I don't train". If they got out and tried for just 1 day of practice they would realize it is one of the hardest sports.
Two summers ago this kid came to XC Summer Training because he wanted to "stay in shape for wrestling (which is probably the hardest sport but still..) he's goes with the fastest group running and he's like this is a piece of cake (200m in.....we were doing 9 miles) So we told him I bet you can't last 10 minutes with us even though its a "piece of cake" and surely enough 8 minutes later...he's walking.
Two summers ago this kid came to XC Summer Training because he wanted to "stay in shape for wrestling (which is probably the hardest sport but still..) he's goes with the fastest group running and he's like this is a piece of cake (200m in.....we were doing 9 miles) So we told him I bet you can't last 10 minutes with us even though its a "piece of cake" and surely enough 8 minutes later...he's walking.
alex-likes-running- Global Moderator
- Number of posts : 3314
Age : 31
Location : HK
Class : 2010
800m Time : 2:28
5000m XC Time : 20:36
Half-Marathon Time : 1:50
Registration date : 2008-05-22
- Post n°24
Re: What is the probability of this?
^ that's unfortunate. at my school, people do consider track and xc as an intense sport...everyone makes fun of boys volleyball and badminton ahhaha.
Lily- Pro
- Number of posts : 462
Age : 30
Location : New Jersey
Mile Time : 5:56
Class : 2011
800m Time : 2:34
5000m XC Time : 20:45
Registration date : 2008-11-27
- Post n°25
Re: What is the probability of this?
haha we don't even have boys volleyball and badminton. but people at my school tend to avoid cross country and track because they think it sounds too hard.
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