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    Just looking for some opinions.

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    Post by Ria Sat Jan 10, 2009 12:12 pm

    So, as I have said before, I have a trainer who I see once a week. He is REALLY good and I believe the most professional trainer you can get in Delaware. I am his first runner though, but he has researched ALOT into running and seems to know what he is talking about. Anyway, I would see him one day a week and for 6 days a week I would make up my own running schedule. Well, I'm really new to running, and I thought I would do "base training", but I seem to do better when I am running short and faster, that's what I did all summer and I had a pretty sucessful first season of XC.

    So, I feel like I'm getting slower, so he is now making up my running schedule. It is trial and error, but for this first week he has me doing 4 days of repeats (2 days of 1 mile x 3 and 2 days of 800 x 6) and 2 days of 4 mile runs and one rest day. I am going to see him 3 days a week now(to work out and such) so I will tell him how it is working out throughout the week.

    Now, it may seem like a lot of speed work for the off season, but it is only for this one week, and if I feel like it is too much, then I'll tell him. What do you think? For just this one week I think it will be ok, and who knows, maybe I do better with quality rather than quantity. I would just like some other people's opinions, and feel free to say whatever. Oh, yeah, I'm also in this strength and conditiong class at school, but with going to workout with my trainer 3 days a week and running 6 days a week, do you think I should tell my teacher I can't workout too much?
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    Post by T B K Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:09 pm

    If you want to get the most out of yourself for track season, just try to stay in base for now and cut back on all the speed workouts. Its ok if you have a couple tempo runs here and there, but 4 days of repeats is just too much in base.
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    Post by runlikethawind Sat Jan 10, 2009 2:14 pm

    ya thats only 20 miles a week
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    Post by Ria Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:03 pm

    Yeah, well I was doing that much milage over the summer though. And probably the same amount during XC season.
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    Post by mentle bentle Sat Jan 10, 2009 5:52 pm

    doing short, fast stuff now will make you feel faster temporarily but if you want to be at your fastest during track then do as many longer comfortable miles as you can now and save the fast interval type stuff for during the season.
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    Post by hannah Sat Jan 10, 2009 7:38 pm

    Something that you might want to look into is getting a book on how to train (like Jack Daniel's Running Formula), so you have a better idea of what to do+why, and you can compare it to what you're doing.

    If you're comfortable it might be a good idea to talk to your trainer about your concerns too, so you understand his thinking.

    I think you should definitely tell your teacher that you're doing stuff outside of school just so she knows, but be careful how you phrase it so she doesn't get upset, and maybe ask if there is something else you could do/if there is any part of your workout that you could do in class.
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    Post by Ria Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:23 pm

    Thanks guys, and yeah hannah, I just got a running book called "Run Faster From the 5K to the Marathon" which is very helpful. I will talk to my trainer (I'll see him on monday) but do you really think it would hurt to do it just this one week?
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    Post by hannah Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:35 pm

    Ria wrote:Thanks guys, and yeah hannah, I just got a running book called "Run Faster From the 5K to the Marathon" which is very helpful. I will talk to my trainer (I'll see him on monday) but do you really think it would hurt to do it just this one week?
    One week shouldn't hurt, but I think the danger is that you might feel really good and decide to keep doing short fast stuff and end up in a bad place in the spring. I'm not an expert though.
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    Post by Lily Sat Jan 10, 2009 10:37 pm

    i don't think it will make a huge change either way if you do this plan for one week. but i agree that you should be doing more base mileage and tempo right now. it doesn't have to be crazy mileage, but maybe like 30 to 35 per week. see what your trainer says.
    and on a side note, what do you mean by saying that he is the most professional trainer in Delaware but you are his first runner? if he hasn't trained anyone before he doesn't sound that professional. maybe i'm just misunderstanding it somehow though
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    Post by alex-likes-running Sun Jan 11, 2009 8:37 am

    Fitter, Happier... wrote: what do you mean by saying that he is the most professional trainer in Delaware but you are his first runner? if he hasn't trained anyone before he doesn't sound that professional. maybe i'm just misunderstanding it somehow though
    yea lol
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    Post by Wgrt Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:01 am

    alex-likes-running wrote:
    Fitter, Happier... wrote: what do you mean by saying that he is the most professional trainer in Delaware but you are his first runner? if he hasn't trained anyone before he doesn't sound that professional. maybe i'm just misunderstanding it somehow though
    yea lol
    maybe first hs runner or something?
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    Post by FinishingKick Sun Jan 11, 2009 10:55 am

    It's okay to do speed work now, just don't focus on it. Depending on when your track season begins and ends you would probably be better off doing some speed work instead of none at all, just don't make it your main focus.
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    Post by futureNIKErunner Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:09 pm

    i agree. ^^^^^^^^^
    last year i made the mistake of doing a lot of speed work way to early.
    and it messed up my track season. so some speed here and there is good.
    but i would just worry about strength right now and building your body up. like base mileage with strides. get a strong core. workout.
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    Post by FinishingKick Sun Jan 11, 2009 12:35 pm

    You're back.
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    Post by futureNIKErunner Sun Jan 11, 2009 1:43 pm

    yes i am
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    Post by alex-likes-running Sun Jan 11, 2009 11:57 pm

    there goes my hope of passing you up in post count.

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