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    Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by P2 on Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:49 pm

    So most of our seasons end soon now. Everybody seems to have intentions of training during the winter in some form or another. So here's a thread where everyone can ask their questions instead of a billion different ones.
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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by P2 on Sat Oct 18, 2008 9:55 pm

    Mine:
    Peaked at 40 over summer.
    Doing 3200/Mile
    16 weeks to train.

    1)How high in mileage should I go?
    2)How many times a week should I swim.
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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by runner_dude on Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:01 pm

    P2 wrote:Mine:
    Peaked at 40 over summer.
    Doing 3200/Mile
    16 weeks to train.

    1)How high in mileage should I go?
    2)How many times a week should I swim.

    40-50
    As much as you feel like?
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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by Running With Scissors on Sat Oct 18, 2008 10:02 pm

    When you were at 40 do you feel like you could carry a bigger load? I don't think you need to go much over 50 because it's track and you might get stuck doing the 4x800 as well as the 1600/3200.
    I would join the swim team. It the best cross training I can think of for running and it's almost impossible to get injuried (swimmer's shoulder is the only thing I can think of).


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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by FinishingKick on Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:36 pm

    75% chance of indoor
    25% chance of skipping indoor and building a base peaking at 70 mpw in 15 weeks.
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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by P2 on Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:38 pm

    FinishingKick wrote:75% chance of indoor
    25% chance of skipping indoor and building a base peaking at 70 mpw in 15 weeks.
    peak at 70 imo.
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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by amherst_xc on Sat Oct 18, 2008 11:48 pm

    dont skip indoor.
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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by AudienceOfOne on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:36 am

    FinishingKick wrote:75% chance of indoor
    25% chance of skipping indoor and building a base peaking at 70 mpw in 15 weeks.
    run 70 mpw and indoor?


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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by FinishingKick on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:36 am

    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    FinishingKick wrote:75% chance of indoor
    25% chance of skipping indoor and building a base peaking at 70 mpw in 15 weeks.
    run 70 mpw and indoor?
    Obviously I would only choose one option.

    I would really like to skip indoor and do the base, as I need some time away from competition. However, I feel as though no one will understand. I'm also not going to do it unless I get a small group together, otherwise I'll only end up running half the days once it starts snowing.


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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by Running With Scissors on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:37 am

    amherst_xc wrote:dont skip indoor.


    You'll have a better outdoor track season if you skip indoor and run a big base imo.


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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by AudienceOfOne on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:38 am

    FinishingKick wrote:
    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    FinishingKick wrote:75% chance of indoor
    25% chance of skipping indoor and building a base peaking at 70 mpw in 15 weeks.
    run 70 mpw and indoor?
    Obviously I would only choose one option.
    why not do indoor AND run 70 mpw?


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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by FinishingKick on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:41 am

    Edited my above post. ^
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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by AudienceOfOne on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:43 am

    oh so just more mental than physical? eh, i guess it might be good then.


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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by FinishingKick on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:45 am

    AudienceOfOne wrote:oh so just more mental than physical? eh, i guess it might be good then.
    What might be good then?
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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by Running With Scissors on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:47 am

    FinishingKick wrote:
    AudienceOfOne wrote:oh so just more mental than physical? eh, i guess it might be good then.
    What might be good then?


    that you would do track and not a base.


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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by AudienceOfOne on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:48 am

    FinishingKick wrote:
    AudienceOfOne wrote:oh so just more mental than physical? eh, i guess it might be good then.
    What might be good then?
    if you just want to get away from competition from the mental point of view, then skip it. if you're worried about peaking, mileage, or those kinds of things, then you're an idiot.


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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by FinishingKick on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:51 am

    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    FinishingKick wrote:
    AudienceOfOne wrote:oh so just more mental than physical? eh, i guess it might be good then.
    What might be good then?
    if you just want to get away from competition from the mental point of view, then skip it. if you're worried about peaking, mileage, or those kinds of things, then you're an idiot.
    So if I skipped indoor without feeling the need to get away from competition I'd be an idiot?

    I think I'll do indoor anyway, I have no idea how I'd say no to my coach and teammates, even if it feels like the right thing to do.
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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by AudienceOfOne on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:54 am

    FinishingKick wrote:
    AudienceOfOne wrote:
    FinishingKick wrote:
    AudienceOfOne wrote:oh so just more mental than physical? eh, i guess it might be good then.
    What might be good then?
    if you just want to get away from competition from the mental point of view, then skip it. if you're worried about peaking, mileage, or those kinds of things, then you're an idiot.
    So if I skipped indoor without feeling the need to get away from competition I'd be an idiot?

    I think I'll do indoor anyway, I have no idea how I'd say no to my coach and teammates, even if it feels like the right thing to do.
    yes. indoor won't make you peak and you can keep a good amount of mileage up. plus, you have a beasty team that knows how to get it done. follow them.


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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by Tri Babe 518 on Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:35 am

    Triathlon training is just getting started. I'm currently in the Prep phase, which hasn't exactly gone as planned, but that's why there's Prep AND Base.

    I'll be swimming 4-5 times a week, running 6-7 times a week (sometimes 2x daily), and biking 4-6 times, based on the other two disciplines. I feel like swimming is my weakest leg and running is my strongest, so I want to train accordingly. You can't win a tri with a stellar swim, but you can with a stellar run.

    I just got done making my race schedule for the season, which includes 5 out of town races (Indiana, Minnesota, Iowa, Illinois, and Colorado). I'm totally pumped!

    Anyways, my coach (xc assistant, track head coach) won't allow anybody on the track team to run half-marathons. BUT, I need to get a couple in to get ready for my half-Ironman. He understands my level of training and dedication to triathlon, but I don't know what to say to him about it, because I'm doing a half-marathon.

    Not that anyone on this site cares about triathlon...
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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by 5280ft on Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:58 am

    P2, if I were you, I would skip indoor and do base.

    My plans are getting to 50mpw for a few weeks, which will be the most I've ever done. Plus some road races.
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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by baby got track on Sun Oct 19, 2008 12:18 pm

    Either doing indoor or just building a base

    I really want to just build a base but I think my mom is going to make me do indoor Neutral
    So hopefully I'll just be able to get the mileage up anyway while doing indoor. (I want to be around 50mpw)
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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by runner_dude on Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:04 pm

    I'm building a base until indoor starts (January 1st) We don't have outdoor in the CIS, so this is the only track I can do.

    Personally, P2, I'd skip indoor most likely. Peaking 3x per year is brutal on the body, and base is better for long-term development.
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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by AudienceOfOne on Sun Oct 19, 2008 1:54 pm

    runner_dude wrote:I'm building a base until indoor starts (January 1st) We don't have outdoor in the CIS, so this is the only track I can do.

    Personally, P2, I'd skip indoor most likely. Peaking 3x per year is brutal on the body, and base is better for long-term development.
    why in the world would you peak for indoor?


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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by runner_dude on Sun Oct 19, 2008 2:11 pm

    Because coaches want to win titles. Not all coaches are smart.
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    Re: Official Winter Training Thread

    Post by P2 on Sun Oct 19, 2008 3:19 pm

    Guys, FK asked it, not me? Why are you saying P2?

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