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I didn't say ignorant, I'm basically just saying they can't make a decision.CT Track wrote:So she is ignorant for not believing in what she can't see, while you aren't when faith is the complete basis of ignorance. I see you point....
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Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?
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sparknotes: God works through people.xc_babe09 wrote:SourWorms wrote:QUESTION: How many of you have physically heard God's voice? All of you firm believers. What does he sound like? I am interested.
we dont hear his voice, but we do hear his words. if youve ever gone to church you hear god speak through someone who is willing to let him do that. we dont have prophets persay anymore but we do have priests and preachers. i think they are very similar because they help spread the word of god and help those people who dont hear god in the way they do find a way to hear him and love him. if we didnt have preachers and churches i think that there would be nut jobs and people who didnt believe in anything and didnt like the nut jobs because they didnt understand them. thats how god helps us. if anyone can even understand what i said the way i understand it then they will understand.
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haha yes. pretty much.
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FinishingKick wrote:I didn't say ignorant, I'm basically just saying they can't make a decision.CT Track wrote:So she is ignorant for not believing in what she can't see, while you aren't when faith is the complete basis of ignorance. I see you point....
I get what your saying, I Think its just more of a point in someones life where they're looking for a religion.
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AudienceOfOne wrote:Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?
annd?
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Pinthin wrote:xc_babe09 wrote:SourWorms wrote:QUESTION: How many of you have physically heard God's voice? All of you firm believers. What does he sound like? I am interested.
we dont hear his voice, but we do hear his words. if youve ever gone to church you hear god speak through someone who is willing to let him do that. we dont have prophets persay anymore but we do have priests and preachers. i think they are very similar because they help spread the word of god and help those people who dont hear god in the way they do find a way to hear him and love him. if we didnt have preachers and churches i think that there would be nut jobs and people who didnt believe in anything and didnt like the nut jobs because they didnt understand them. thats how god helps us. if anyone can even understand what i said the way i understand it then they will understand.
no offense.. but that sounds like crazy talk.
Crazy people hear voices all the time. Maybe they aren't really crazy at all, they must truly be hearing those voices. and no I'm not calling anyone crazy or insane so don't go there.
its almost like a placebo effect.
did you miss everything we said? we don't hear voices. He talks to us in different ways.
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AudienceOfOne wrote:Pinthin wrote:xc_babe09 wrote:SourWorms wrote:QUESTION: How many of you have physically heard God's voice? All of you firm believers. What does he sound like? I am interested.
we dont hear his voice, but we do hear his words. if youve ever gone to church you hear god speak through someone who is willing to let him do that. we dont have prophets persay anymore but we do have priests and preachers. i think they are very similar because they help spread the word of god and help those people who dont hear god in the way they do find a way to hear him and love him. if we didnt have preachers and churches i think that there would be nut jobs and people who didnt believe in anything and didnt like the nut jobs because they didnt understand them. thats how god helps us. if anyone can even understand what i said the way i understand it then they will understand.
no offense.. but that sounds like crazy talk.
Crazy people hear voices all the time. Maybe they aren't really crazy at all, they must truly be hearing those voices. and no I'm not calling anyone crazy or insane so don't go there.
its almost like a placebo effect.
did you miss everything we said? we don't hear voices. He talks to us in different ways.
its still like a placebo effect.
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that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?
annd?
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How would you know? Certainly not from personal experience.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Pinthin wrote:xc_babe09 wrote:SourWorms wrote:QUESTION: How many of you have physically heard God's voice? All of you firm believers. What does he sound like? I am interested.
we dont hear his voice, but we do hear his words. if youve ever gone to church you hear god speak through someone who is willing to let him do that. we dont have prophets persay anymore but we do have priests and preachers. i think they are very similar because they help spread the word of god and help those people who dont hear god in the way they do find a way to hear him and love him. if we didnt have preachers and churches i think that there would be nut jobs and people who didnt believe in anything and didnt like the nut jobs because they didnt understand them. thats how god helps us. if anyone can even understand what i said the way i understand it then they will understand.
no offense.. but that sounds like crazy talk.
Crazy people hear voices all the time. Maybe they aren't really crazy at all, they must truly be hearing those voices. and no I'm not calling anyone crazy or insane so don't go there.
its almost like a placebo effect.
did you miss everything we said? we don't hear voices. He talks to us in different ways.
its still like a placebo effect.
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AudienceOfOne wrote:that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?
annd?
I meant that doesnt mean everyone else is wrong.
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FinishingKick wrote:How would you know? Certainly not from personal experience.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Pinthin wrote:xc_babe09 wrote:SourWorms wrote:QUESTION: How many of you have physically heard God's voice? All of you firm believers. What does he sound like? I am interested.
we dont hear his voice, but we do hear his words. if youve ever gone to church you hear god speak through someone who is willing to let him do that. we dont have prophets persay anymore but we do have priests and preachers. i think they are very similar because they help spread the word of god and help those people who dont hear god in the way they do find a way to hear him and love him. if we didnt have preachers and churches i think that there would be nut jobs and people who didnt believe in anything and didnt like the nut jobs because they didnt understand them. thats how god helps us. if anyone can even understand what i said the way i understand it then they will understand.
no offense.. but that sounds like crazy talk.
Crazy people hear voices all the time. Maybe they aren't really crazy at all, they must truly be hearing those voices. and no I'm not calling anyone crazy or insane so don't go there.
its almost like a placebo effect.
did you miss everything we said? we don't hear voices. He talks to us in different ways.
its still like a placebo effect.
Im' going to ignore that because I explained it a bit ago and you can just read it.
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yes it does.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?
annd?
I meant that doesnt mean everyone else is wrong.
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You can't say something is like the placebo effect if you've never experienced it. I don't care how well you know the placebo effect, you can't make the connection without being familiar with both parts.Pinthin wrote:FinishingKick wrote:How would you know? Certainly not from personal experience.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Pinthin wrote:xc_babe09 wrote:SourWorms wrote:QUESTION: How many of you have physically heard God's voice? All of you firm believers. What does he sound like? I am interested.
we dont hear his voice, but we do hear his words. if youve ever gone to church you hear god speak through someone who is willing to let him do that. we dont have prophets persay anymore but we do have priests and preachers. i think they are very similar because they help spread the word of god and help those people who dont hear god in the way they do find a way to hear him and love him. if we didnt have preachers and churches i think that there would be nut jobs and people who didnt believe in anything and didnt like the nut jobs because they didnt understand them. thats how god helps us. if anyone can even understand what i said the way i understand it then they will understand.
no offense.. but that sounds like crazy talk.
Crazy people hear voices all the time. Maybe they aren't really crazy at all, they must truly be hearing those voices. and no I'm not calling anyone crazy or insane so don't go there.
its almost like a placebo effect.
did you miss everything we said? we don't hear voices. He talks to us in different ways.
its still like a placebo effect.
Im' going to ignore that because I explained it a bit ago and you can just read it.
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So who is right?Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?
annd?
I meant that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.
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FinishingKick wrote:You can't say something is like the placebo effect if you've never experienced it. I don't care how well you know the placebo effect, you can't make the connection without being familiar with both parts.Pinthin wrote:FinishingKick wrote:How would you know? Certainly not from personal experience.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Pinthin wrote:xc_babe09 wrote:SourWorms wrote:QUESTION: How many of you have physically heard God's voice? All of you firm believers. What does he sound like? I am interested.
we dont hear his voice, but we do hear his words. if youve ever gone to church you hear god speak through someone who is willing to let him do that. we dont have prophets persay anymore but we do have priests and preachers. i think they are very similar because they help spread the word of god and help those people who dont hear god in the way they do find a way to hear him and love him. if we didnt have preachers and churches i think that there would be nut jobs and people who didnt believe in anything and didnt like the nut jobs because they didnt understand them. thats how god helps us. if anyone can even understand what i said the way i understand it then they will understand.
no offense.. but that sounds like crazy talk.
Crazy people hear voices all the time. Maybe they aren't really crazy at all, they must truly be hearing those voices. and no I'm not calling anyone crazy or insane so don't go there.
its almost like a placebo effect.
did you miss everything we said? we don't hear voices. He talks to us in different ways.
its still like a placebo effect.
Im' going to ignore that because I explained it a bit ago and you can just read it.
I didnt say that. ughhhhh how about you go back and read what I said. i'm dead tired of explaining it.
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FinishingKick wrote:So who is right?Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?
annd?
I meant that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.
who knows. maybe you, maybe science, maybe nobody.
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AudienceOfOne wrote:yes it does.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?
annd?
I meant that doesnt mean everyone else is wrong.
that didnt sound the least big ignorant to you?
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It's an argument you need a side.Pinthin wrote:FinishingKick wrote:So who is right?Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?
annd?
I meant that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.
who knows. maybe you, maybe science, maybe nobody.
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2+2=4 it can't equal anything else. Is that ignorant?Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:yes it does.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?
annd?
I meant that doesnt mean everyone else is wrong.
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FinishingKick wrote:It's an argument you need a side.Pinthin wrote:FinishingKick wrote:So who is right?Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?
annd?
I meant that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.
who knows. maybe you, maybe science, maybe nobody.
okay obviously I would go with science. has evidence (yeah yeah lets not go there again)
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no. my God told me that He's the Way, period.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:yes it does.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?
annd?
I meant that doesnt mean everyone else is wrong.
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I'm on the side of science too, science isn't a religion, it's in a lot of religions.Pinthin wrote:FinishingKick wrote:It's an argument you need a side.Pinthin wrote:FinishingKick wrote:So who is right?Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?
annd?
I meant that doesn't mean everyone else is wrong.
who knows. maybe you, maybe science, maybe nobody.
okay obviously I would go with science. has evidence (yeah yeah lets not go there again)
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FinishingKick wrote:2+2=4 it can't equal anything else. Is that ignorant?Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:yes it does.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:that isn't self explained? no one gets through except through Jesus. not atheists, not agnostics, not hindus.Pinthin wrote:AudienceOfOne wrote:Jesus said, "I am the way. No one gets to the Father except through me".CT Track wrote:So who are we to tell atheists, agnostics, even hindus that they are wrong?
annd?
I meant that doesnt mean everyone else is wrong.
haha wow, woooow.
I cant believe it, how you cant see how bad that sounds.